MTK
05-18-2010, 03:13 PM
This dead horse has been beaten, raped, and burned at the stake. My lord.
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MTK 05-18-2010, 03:13 PM This dead horse has been beaten, raped, and burned at the stake. My lord. over the mountain 05-18-2010, 03:36 PM If I had to predict, AH won't be here after 2010, and I imagine the departure won't be amicable. I didnt know aobut this until 20 minutes ago. This may very well be the most likely scenario for AH and the skins. http://http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Why-the-Eagles-had-no-interest-in-Haynesworth.html Cap and cash accounting The other reason deals with accounting. The Redskins initially structured the bulk of the bonus money in the contract $21 million of the $26M total in the form of an option bonus to keep the cash and cap hit on the deal out of 2009, the last capped year of the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and a year when, as has often been the case, the Redskins were snug against the cap. Now that the Redskins got through 2009 into uncapped 2010, they used their contractually negotiated supersede right to turn the option into signing bonus. And as part of the renegotiation, the Redskins added a clause allowing Haynesworth to void the contract after next season and walk away, having pocketed over $24M from the team in two years. Haynesworth can now void the remaining years of the deal after 2010 if and only if he returns four-fifths of the $21M he is now receiving, or $16.8M. Of course, hell only do that if he finds a team willing to pay him more than that a year from now, which would require some serious tampering discussions. He likely will not have the money to void it anyway since it may be spent by this time next year. ------------------------------------------------------------- Under my conspiracy theory that AH wants a new contract with a new team; if he really wants it, he can have it. So he gets paid 24 mil for 2 seasons with the skins. Not a bad pay day and he can go on to sign with another team. Do we get a comp pick if AH voids the contract after this year and signs with another team? SkinsFanOttawa 05-18-2010, 03:38 PM Hi guys this is my first post here on this site... Here's my 2 cents on Fat Albert - All I know is he better come to next month's mandatory camp in GREAT shape, not like the out of shape lard he was last year. He is going to hear it and I'm glad guys like Phillip Daniels and Mike Williams are piping up and not standing by idly. That is the problem though it was start causing division at some point and they may be better of trading him for a 2nd and 4th. I just am not sure what's the best thing to do I think it's a delimma. That Fat Albert Dilemma is what it is. GTripp0012 05-18-2010, 04:17 PM i'd say by doing exactly what he's doing, Shanahan IS commanding the respect of the team. By standing his ground and not "letting the inmates run the asylum," shanahan is ensuring that the entire team is on the same page. well, the entire team except for one bad apple. If shanahan were to cater to Haynesworth, I imagine that he'd lose the respect of other players and open himself up to more problems in the future. In this situation, there are only two possibilities - Haynesworth gets in line or the team gets rid of Haynesworth. We can't let one bad apple ruin the whole bunch.By and large, you're right. I don't think there's a meaningful rift between Shanny, and any defensive player who has been kept on the roster. I think it's safe to say that if he was here last year, we never sign Haynesworth/Hall. I don't really know too much more than that, as not feeling a player is worth $48 million in guaranteed money is different than thinking that he has to shape up if he ever wants to see the field on your watch. The distinction is critical. GTripp0012 05-18-2010, 04:21 PM I'll say that if I ran the Redskins, I wouldn't have been in on the Haynesworth sweepstakes at all. I wasn't against his signing, and I actually think we got a pretty good contract, all things considered, but we didn't have a need there, and signing a 28 year old DT is ultimately counterproductive towards the goal of cultivating young talent. The last thing this team needs is to be reliant on a $50 million player approaching 30 who is piling up quite the injury history. Of course, film shows that he's utterly unblockable against the run, and has rare pass rushing skills to boot, so it's not like there's a defensive coach in the league that can't find a spot on a defense for Haynesworth. You just can't build around him. 12thMan 05-18-2010, 04:26 PM I know JLC doesn't have a sterling reputation around here, but I wouldn't be quick to dismiss his reporting on the Haynesworth situation. Whatever the case may or may not be, all these reports can't be wrong. NYCskinfan82 05-18-2010, 04:28 PM Welcome to THE WARPATH, it's voluntary should he be here YES i'll take him for his word he's working out with his own trainer. If AH shows up to camp out of shape don't trade him just let him ride the pine, i don't beleive he will show up out of shape but IF. MTK 05-18-2010, 04:47 PM I'll say that if I ran the Redskins, I wouldn't have been in on the Haynesworth sweepstakes at all. I wasn't against his signing, and I actually think we got a pretty good contract, all things considered, but we didn't have a need there, and signing a 28 year old DT is ultimately counterproductive towards the goal of cultivating young talent. The last thing this team needs is to be reliant on a $50 million player approaching 30 who is piling up quite the injury history. Of course, film shows that he's utterly unblockable against the run, and has rare pass rushing skills to boot, so it's not like there's a defensive coach in the league that can't find a spot on a defense for Haynesworth. You just can't build around him. Safe to say Allen/Shanahan wouldn't have been either, but it's their mess to clean up now. CRedskinsRule 05-18-2010, 04:58 PM I know JLC doesn't have a sterling reputation around here, but I wouldn't be quick to dismiss his reporting on the Haynesworth situation. Whatever the case may or may not be, all these reports can't be wrong. I don't think they are "wrong" per se, but instead a seed of truth has been fertilized with a WHOLE LOTTA manure. Ruhskins 05-18-2010, 05:21 PM A good piece from Matt Williamson (a Scouts Inc guy) in looking at the Redskins without Haynesworth from a football standpoint. The Big Question: Replacing Haynesworth - NFC East Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/14178/the-big-question-replacing-haynesworth) I still don't understand why would fans want AH out of here. |
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