Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

The fact that we were 4-12 last season automatically makes voluntary camp mandatory. Especially since we have a new defensive coordinator

D.C. Sports Bog - Cooley is tired of Haynesworth talk (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/05/cooley_is_tired_of_haynesworth.html)

On Haynesworth:
Yeah I listened to that interview and agree.

This "debate" really has ended up like the JC debate: the haters continually put out their reasons for hating, assuming that the non-haters need to be convinced, meanwhile the non-haters tend to agree with the basic principles of the haters while maintaining a positive overall view.
As it relates to this AH subject: I imagine 0% of the Warpath thinks AH is doing the best thing by staying away.

BUT, the haters group takes his staying away and makes argument after argument as to why this proves the absolute stupidity of a) AH, b) the FO, c) both, and vilifies everything that does not fit in their idea of the right move

AND, the non-haters group gets put in the corner of defending a) AH, b) the FO, c) both when in reality most non-haters are agreeable to the fact that both sides to one degree or another are at fault, but they hold off on pure condemnation.

Thus neither side gets the true capitulation it needs, and the debate can never really be resolved.

Why you hatin so much?

BHA you really think AH is that dumb? That he can press a coach to change his entire defensive formation? Come on man.

Also why break his work out regimen to come here for 3 days of voluntary workouts? Why not train where he feels best for him, rather than a place that would only hinder him?

why do you think a minicamp is the same as a workout.

i dont know about AH being dumb, but I do actually think he is self-centered enough to beleive that the team should cater to what he thinks makes him the most effective player.

Dude, seriously stop making shit up. Every day you make up shit about Haynesworth and you state it as if it is an obvious fact. It is not.

it is obvious. if someone can come up with a logical explaination for all of haynesworth's offseason behavior, that also fits with what we know of him as a player in his entire professional career, i'd love to hear it. so far, everyone just says florio and JLC are making crap up for the fun of it, without providing a plausible explaination for AH's behavior. sorry, but i'm not that gullible.

And it is hard to understand why you think this is a big deal. But then again, if he is "forcing" the team to stick to the 4-3, actually I'd be all for that because I believe our team has no business being in the 3-4.

Everything that has come directly from Haynesworth himself says that he is not thrilled with the 3-4, but he'll play it. He also wishes they'd use him as a 3-4 DE and not a NT, which I agree. Is he trying to push for a trade? Probably, but it'd be smart for the team to keep him because given the perception of a problem (it is my believe) the team won't get a fair compensation.

Personally, I'd like to see this team use their players better. If this were any other player, we'd be having a discussion about this whole change to the 3-4, whether we should do it, and why do we keep having coaches that don't use their players to the best of their capacity. But since it's Haynesworth, the bitter girlfriends just keep hounding on just him being absent.

only a complete fool will take anything haynesworth, his agent, or the redskins front office says about the situation at face value Remember, they all said Snyder was meeting with Speck to talk about Malcom Kelly.

If you consider the possibility that Haynesworth really DOES want to be traded, and the team is still open to the possibility, then everyone's behavior makes compete sense. In that scenario, everyone would be acting exactly as they are. Actions speak louder than words. In light of what we know, the scenario that makes the most sense is that Haynesworth wants out.

it is obvious. if someone can come up with a logical explaination for all of haynesworth's offseason behavior, that also fits with what we know of him as a player in his entire professional career, i'd love to hear it. so far, everyone just says florio and JLC are making crap up for the fun of it, without providing a plausible explaination for AH's behavior. sorry, but i'm not that gullible.

All his offseason behavior? What is he doing besides working out on his own?

only a complete fool will take anything haynesworth, his agent, or the redskins front office says about the situation at face value Remember, they all said Snyder was meeting with Speck to talk about Malcom Kelly.

If you consider the possibility that Haynesworth really DOES want to be traded, and the team is still open to the possibility, then everyone's behavior makes compete sense. In that scenario, everyone would be acting exactly as they are. Actions speak louder than words. In light of what we know, the scenario that makes the most sense is that Haynesworth wants out.

Well the media swore we were getting Peppers, but we all know how that turned out. I'm just a fool that thinks somewhat logically, instead of basing my comments on wishful thinking or some pissy grudge against a player.

And it is hard to understand why you think this is a big deal. But then again, if he is "forcing" the team to stick to the 4-3, actually I'd be all for that because I believe our team has no business being in the 3-4.

Everything that has come directly from Haynesworth himself says that he is not thrilled with the 3-4, but he'll play it. He also wishes they'd use him as a 3-4 DE and not a NT, which I agree. Is he trying to push for a trade? Probably, but it'd be smart for the team to keep him because given the perception of a problem (it is my believe) the team won't get a fair compensation.

Personally, I'd like to see this team use their players better. If this were any other player, we'd be having a discussion about this whole change to the 3-4, whether we should do it, and why do we keep having coaches that don't use their players to the best of their capacity. But since it's Haynesworth, the bitter girlfriends just keep hounding on just him being absent.

I agree...... and all this bashing Haynesworth started after Shanahan came aboard and voiced his displeasure about him not being here for voluntary work. There was not a single thread condemning Haynesworth between the end of last season and the time Shanahan came to Washington, and even he has not exactly walked on water just yet.

Haynesworth's not being here now is more an indictment against the team's poorly run training program last year which only a few want to talk about, and which prompted him to plan another option before the general arrived that he felt was going to help him better his performance.

I would challenge anyone to show documentation (video) or a statement coming from the mouth of Haynesworth where he actually stated he wanted to be traded, or where he didn't want to play the N/T position in a 3-4 defensive alignment. I heard him state his preference, nothing more or less. Mind you, I'm not talking about what somebody said or what has been widely reported in the media. Much of the negative reporting surrounding Haynesworth has proven to be pure conjecture, based on mindless premature judgement and speculation.

All his offseason behavior? What is he doing besides working out on his own?
lol seriously

BHA can really run with stuff