Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave


CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 10:34 AM
How about they just stop the f*cking leak...jesus this happend like a week ago...how are they not prepared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My absolute basic expectation..if you drill a f*cking hole you can plug it up.

Get real dude, we aren't talking about a garden hose. The hole is at the bottom of the Gulf, you don't just go and put a band-aid on it like it was a little boo-boo. But I guess in our good ole' instant society, of which I am a happy member, it should have been done yesterday.

Check the facts on how much pressure this oil is under, or how deep it is. A tragic example, is the mining explosion, they weren't able to just go rushing in to try and save those guys, they had to account for what nature was doing.

I am not defending BP, I don't really know how long it would take a super well prepared team to go and stop the spill, but somehow, your basic expectation seems simply unrealistic.

CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 10:43 AM
Here is an interesting article on what is being done. It is from 4 days ago, so there are newer details I am sure:

Robot plugging Gulf oil spill (http://www.winknews.com/National-World/2010-04-26/Robot-Plugging-Gulf-Oil-Spill)

Crews are using robot submarines to activate valves at the well head in hopes of cutting off the leak, which threatens the Gulf Coast's fragile ecosystem of shrimp, fish, birds and coral. If the effort fails, they'll have to start drilling again.

The submarine work will take 24 to 36 hours, Doug Suttles, chief operating officer for BP Exploration and Production, said Sunday afternoon. "I should emphasize this is a highly complex operation being performed at 5,000 feet below the surface and it may not be successful," he said.

Oil continued to leak nearly a mile underwater Sunday at the site where the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on Tuesday. Eleven workers are missing and presumed dead. For the second consecutive day, high waves prevented boats and equipment from going out to clean the spill. Airplanes sprayed chemicals to break up the oil.

Chico23231
04-30-2010, 10:55 AM
Get real dude, we aren't talking about a garden hose. The hole is at the bottom of the Gulf, you don't just go and put a band-aid on it like it was a little boo-boo. But I guess in our good ole' instant society, of which I am a happy member, it should have been done yesterday.

Check the facts on how much pressure this oil is under, or how deep it is. A tragic example, is the mining explosion, they weren't able to just go rushing in to try and save those guys, they had to account for what nature was doing.

I am not defending BP, I don't really know how long it would take a super well prepared team to go and stop the spill, but somehow, your basic expectation seems simply unrealistic.

So this is acceptable? WOW...Your talking about a massive company who for massive profits does this all the time claiming they have this advance technology and ability to have limited impact to the environment around them and has a pretty good track record, but accidents do happen. Yes my expectation by now is they should have the ability to stop the leak. Sorry I set high standards when it comes to potential man made environmental disasters.

saden1
04-30-2010, 10:59 AM
Yeah, BP should foot the entire cleanup bill. Politically it just keeps getting better for dems. This should give them cover in axing coast drilling....hopefully they'll use it.

CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 11:01 AM
So this is acceptable? WOW...Your talking about a massive company who for massive profits does this all the time claiming they have this advance technology and ability to have limited impact to the environment around them and has a pretty good track record, but accidents do happen. Yes my expectation by now is they should have the ability to stop the leak. Sorry I set high standards when it comes to potential man made environmental disasters.

It would be unacceptable if all efforts were not being undertaken to stop the leak, and clean it up. Or if the company said my bad so sad. From what I can see, they have taken full responsibity AND have been mobilized around the clock since it happened. I tell you what, if you can answer how it could have been done differently, or what action they failed to take than your opinion might have some validity, but to say that just because x number of days has passed it ought to be stopped, ignores the reality of the situation. It's like the Madden version of environmental emergency response.

CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 11:11 AM
Yeah, BP should foot the entire cleanup bill. Politically it just keeps getting better for dems. This should give them cover in axing coast drilling....hopefully they'll use it.

Both BP and Pres Obama have said that BP will foot the entire bill. Hopefully, they will not use that as political cover. The eco-nuts used 3mile island as "political cover" to effectively shutdown nuclear energy and now we are decades behind where we could have been.
France's Nuclear Power Experience | France - Addressing the Challenge of Climate Change (http://www.ambafrance-us.org/climate/frances-nuclear-power-experience/)
Nuclear production and safety

Reaching a power capacity of 63 gigawatts, the nuclear plants operated by the French utility EDF account for nearly 80% of French generated electricity. The competitiveness of nuclear electricity and the large volume of baseload electricity generated in France enable exports to other European countries, making EDF the world’s largest net exporter of electric power.
The 40 year experience of industrial operation of nuclear energy has provided France with a demanding and high quality safety culture. The Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN), which is responsible for regulating nuclear safety and radiation protection in order to protect workers, the public and the environment from the risks involved in nuclear activities, was established as an independent body.

Slingin Sammy 33
04-30-2010, 11:12 AM
Yeah, BP should foot the entire cleanup bill. Politically it just keeps getting better for dems. This should give them cover in axing coast drilling....hopefully they'll use it.Not necessarily.....

"Last month, Obama proposed new offshore drilling in the Atlantic Ocean from Delaware to central Florida, plus the northern waters of Alaska. Obama also wanted Congress to lift a drilling ban in the oil-rich eastern Gulf of Mexico, 125 miles from Florida beaches. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas of the Gulf of Mexico."

I believe BP is responsible for the entire cleanup bill based on laws enacted after the Valdez spill.

Slingin Sammy 33
04-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Bill Maher had a funny tweet yesterday:

Every asshole who ever chanted 'Drill baby drill' should have to report to the Gulf coast today for cleanup dutyI guess Obama better get headed to the Gulf Coast. see above post

firstdown
04-30-2010, 11:20 AM
Obama threatened by heckuva glob - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/29/expanding-oil-slick-poses-political-peril-obama/?page=2)

Obama's Katrina says conservatives.

Do you read stuff and put your own words to what you read. It was the news paper saying that people will compare this to Katrina and they did not say that any coservatives had made this comparison. Learn how to read.

saden1
04-30-2010, 11:22 AM
I'm glad BP is slated to foot the cleanup bill. Not sure this has an impact to "proposals." What Obama proposed is nowhere near actionable so there is time to reverse. All he has to do is say "After this disaster we'll going to re-think these proposals." Plus Dems haven't passed laws allowing for off-shore drilling yet. Whatever happens you can bet the GOP will oppose them.

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