Arizona's New Immigration Law

You spout theories as if they are proven facts. People in this thread consistently say we are not a free market economy, why change to something new (free market theory)? You act like what you are talking about has been going on for some time when in fact it has never been done before. Ask Sammy.

I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.

I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money?

I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money? Wasn't concerned about 300 billion dollar no bid Halliburton contracts were you? But if the Amercian people get anything your're outraged right? Be for real, Bush messed up, but that's not gonna stop anything.

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money?

Well, I was saying it when the Republicans were in office too, so I don't think it is an agenda driven concern for me.

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money? Wasn't concerned about 300 billion dollar no bid Halliburton contracts were you? But if the Amercian people get anything your're outraged right? Be for real, Bush messed up, but that's not gonna stop anything.

Back to you sticking in the framework of your mind. Don't falsely accuse me of beliefs you think I hold. The Republican machine has it's own money sluts and all of them on BOTH sides need to be pulled away from the drunken sailor that is the Federal budget right now. But as long as curmudgeons like you stick in the framework that all that is of one nature is wrong, the sailor will continue to work us all over in order to pay for his sluts.

AZ is crazy for real. They say all this stuff and want all this attention. That would be like boycotting themselves. I am sure LA does not get power for free from AZ. LA has alot of people. Sounds like a nice wad of cash AZ would be throwing away. Boycotting themsleves. Now if they were providing something for free to LA and then take it away or had an alternative to them then this would work.Actually, the power would be purchased by someone else. There's always demand for power. AZ would probably come out ahead in the deal as they most likely (don't know for sure) negotiated a long term rate with LA at a discounted price. LA would be the big loser as they would have to go out on the open market again and pay higher rates for the same power....and it would likely be coming from a more distant source (higher transmission costs). I'm sure all the folks the LA politicians were trying to appease aren't going to be too happy with higher power bills each month.

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money?It would make me very happy :D

That being said, a balanced budget is a major positive (and a should be a requirement) no matter who occupies the WH.

You spout theories as if they are proven facts. People in this thread consistently say we are not a free market economy, why change to something new (free market theory)? You act like what you are talking about has been going on for some time when in fact it has never been done before. Ask Sammy.Huh, what'd I say again?

Huh, what'd I say again?

Amercia has never been a free market economy. Implying if we tried a free market economy it would be something new. In my words a risky experiment.

got news for you. You trying to sell me on running a country of 300 million people by the same rules as a business with 30 employees? who's gonna give us our small business tax credits and cuts? Who is gonna provide our 300 million people with healthcare? ar you serious? Do you think you think this is a sane analogy? How long have you been smoking outta Ron Paul's meat pipe? Have any computer simulated models?Let me, firstdown, and any other small business owners on the site know where you find all those "small business tax credits and cuts". We'd all be happy to hear about them.

The only credit that I'm aware of recently is the one where if you hire a previously unemployed worker there's a $ 1000 / yr. credit or so. Most small business are running barebones employee wise in this economy. Unless things make a drastic turn high and to the right, there isn't going to be much hiring in the small business sector.

You also forgot to mention the 3 years increase in the minimum wage from 2007-2009 ($ 5.85 - $ 7.25 / hr.) over 19% in three years. I haven't seen a 19% pay increase during that time, and the revenue from my business hasn't seen a 19% increase either. So who is required to pay the increased wages.....oh right, the small business owner must take from his/her bottom line to cover it.

If Gov't would get out of the way with over-regulation and social engineering, the 300M would be able to obtain cost-effective insurance in the private sector, with the poor qualifying for gov't programs/assistance.

And probably the most important point.....the gov't isn't "giving" us anything with tax credits and cuts. Money (profit) is generated by the small business and is property of the small business owner/s, not the gov't. The tax credits/cuts are just the gov't dictating how much needs to be paid.

P.S. Fairtax eliminates taxes on small business altogether and lets businesses focus and make decisions based on profit, not tax ramifications.