Arizona's New Immigration Law


firstdown
05-17-2010, 03:56 PM
I really don't see where he owes her anything to be honest.

If I had a family memeber who came to this country and was dirt poor trying to get by I'd FEEL THE NEED AND THE WANT to help them.

joethiesmanfan
05-17-2010, 03:57 PM
President Obama plays more than Bush - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/golf/04/20/golf.obama.bush/index.html)


Bush was known for his love of golf, but figures released by Mark Knoller of CBS Radio, the unofficial White House statistician, have revealed that Obama has played golf 32 times during his presidency -- eight times more than his predecessor did during his entire tenure at the White House.

I mean really carrying Obama's gonads around in your pocket. I mean I ignored and laughed at Bush, but I never carried his gonads around in my pocket. Can you say obsessed?

firstdown
05-17-2010, 04:14 PM
Maybe thats why the goverment has not moved in a told BP to pound sand and tried to stop the oil leak. When Obama finds out he cannot fly to a funeral he decides to play golf instead of worrying about a hugh oil leak.

CRedskinsRule
05-17-2010, 04:16 PM
President Obama plays more than Bush - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/golf/04/20/golf.obama.bush/index.html)


Bush was known for his love of golf, but figures released by Mark Knoller of CBS Radio, the unofficial White House statistician, have revealed that Obama has played golf 32 times during his presidency -- eight times more than his predecessor did during his entire tenure at the White House.

The real question is how many with Tiger?

JUST KIDDING!

Rainy Parade
05-17-2010, 04:18 PM
Please name one "liberal" public figure that does not want social programs. That is the basis of their platform. Kelsey Grammer is a "conservative" and i know him to be neither raciest or homophobic, rather quite the opposite. Do you realize how ridiculous and malicious your comparison is?


hahaha! okay, let's play who can be more ridiculous!

i'm not even going to engage your line of thinking cuz "liberal" and "public figure" and "want social programs" is pretty genaral.

and the fact that Kelsey Grammer, Famous Conservative, is allegedly not a homophobe or racist (based on what? his own bio? his wiki page? are you his cousin?) all of a sudden i'm malicious?? my whole point was that NOT all conservatives are racists or homophobes.... which was to illustrate that not all "liberals" are the same. dont fall into this coke vs. pepsi trap, the illusion of choice.

people seem to see President Obama as some radical leftist liberal, while i see him as just another "pragmatic" centrist Clinton Democrat willing to compromise and act like a republican when it's deemed the popular thing to do and wont hesitate to sell out his constituency on the REAL left since he knows they have no where else to to turn and the mainstream not-so-liberal media has convinced him that he must "govern from the middle!"

my point, technically Obama and I are both "liberals" and yet we are pretty different.

Rainy Parade
05-17-2010, 04:20 PM
If I had a family memeber who came to this country and was dirt poor trying to get by I'd FEEL THE NEED AND THE WANT to help them.


you spelled "deport" wrong.

Slingin Sammy 33
05-17-2010, 04:26 PM
dont fall into this coke vs. pepsi trap, the illusion of choice.but what about New Coke :)

people seem to see President Obama as some radical leftist liberal, while i see him as just another "pragmatic" centrist Clinton Democrat You must be a little to the left of Mao and Hugo....

Just poking fun :duel:

Rainy Parade
05-17-2010, 04:29 PM
but what about New Coke :)

You must be a little to the left of Mao and Hugo....

Just poking fun :duel:

haha! true.
but the people held up as hardcore liberal leftists in this country (Obama, Kerry, Ted Kennedy, the Clintons, etc) are all "pragmatic centrists" IMO.

firstdown
05-17-2010, 05:17 PM
you spelled "deport" wrong.

Funny. Unlike Obama I could file to sponsor the family member which is saying I will watch over them and provide financial assistance. This way the family member would not be drain on the system and could work toward citizeship. I believe in her case she cam here ligally but over stayed her visa which makes it a little easier. Its also how she got goverment assistance and why just handing out green cards is not a great idea.

joethiesmanfan
05-17-2010, 06:00 PM
but what about New Coke :)

You must be a little to the left of Mao and Hugo....

Just poking fun :duel:

I saw the so-called big NRa crowd here in Charlotte. They are old looks like an AARP convention.

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