joethiesmanfan
05-17-2010, 01:29 PM
Here is the wiki link to two excellent books on the FairTax, the first is the FairTax book and the follow on is a response to critics of the plan (most criticisms false or misleading).
The FairTax Book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_FairTax_Book)
Here is a link to the FairTax site, on the bottom of the front page are the five most common criticisms of the plan with rebuttals.
Americans For Fair Taxation: (http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main)
I just ask taht because I don't believe in utopian ideas. If you can't tell me a negative, then a red flag goes up.
mlmpetert
05-17-2010, 03:04 PM
US court grants asylum to Obama's African aunt - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_s_aunt)
Apparently Obama's aunt was recently a illegal immigrant , but astonishingly she was/is also living in public housing. How does a illegal immigrant get free housing? Its not like she has kids (for us) to support. Also it sounds like she has a fair amount of medical problems so i guess she just gets free health care too? Does anyone know if she works?
And Obama is pretty rich now, he's just gonna let his aunt live in public housing at the expense of the taxpayer? What the hell is going on in this country?
Doesn't sound like he's close to her... should he just pony up for all his relatives?
firstdown
05-17-2010, 03:22 PM
US court grants asylum to Obama's African aunt - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_s_aunt)
Apparently Obama's aunt was recently a illegal immigrant , but astonishingly she was/is also living in public housing. How does a illegal immigrant get free housing? Its not like she has kids (for us) to support. Also it sounds like she has a fair amount of medical problems so i guess she just gets free health care too? Does anyone know if she works?
And Obama is pretty rich now, he's just gonna let his aunt live in public housing at the expense of the taxpayer? What the hell is going on in this country?
See liberals want to tax and have others pay for all their social programs and Obama is no different. The dude is president of the USA and his aunt lives in goverment housing draining our system and he does nothing for her from what I can tell. Same thing goes for his half brother that lives in a hut in some 3rd world.
Rainy Parade
05-17-2010, 03:39 PM
See liberals want to tax and have others pay for all their social programs and Obama is no different. The dude is president of the USA and his aunt lives in goverment housing draining our system and he does nothing for her from what I can tell. Same thing goes for his half brother that lives in a hut in some 3rd world.
right.
cuz all "liberals" ALL think and want the exact same thing. that's a pretty broad brush you're paintin with there my friend. i guess all "conservatives" and/or "republicans" are racists and homophobes cuz i know some that are?
and as someone pointed out, we dont know how close he is with this aunt or the alleged half-brother, not to mention the political dynamite that would go off if he reached out to them in any documented way. just seems like yet another bullshit "gotcha" story that's much a-do about very little.
mlmpetert
05-17-2010, 03:45 PM
Doesn't sound like he's close to her... should he just pony up for all his relatives?
"In his memoir, "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance," Obama affectionately referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" and described meeting her during his 1988 trip to Kenya."
It definitely doesnt sound like theyre close, but they’re not estranged either. It doesn’t sound like she came here to chase him down and get something, and back in 2000 Obama didn’t really have big bucks. But at this point I don’t think you allow your immigrant Aunt with health problems to live in public housing, based solely off his financial security. Taking into account that hes also the President makes it even more disturbing to me.
I really don't see where he owes her anything to be honest.
Rainy Parade
05-17-2010, 03:51 PM
But at this point I don’t think you allow your immigrant Aunt with health problems to live in public housing, based solely off his financial security. Taking into account that hes also the President makes it even more disturbing to me.
dude, he's really busy.
mlmpetert
05-17-2010, 03:52 PM
right.
cuz all "liberals" ALL think and want the exact same thing. that's a pretty broad brush you're paintin with there my friend. i guess all "conservatives" and/or "republicans" are racists and homophobes cuz i know some that are?
and as someone pointed out, we dont know how close he is with this aunt or the alleged half-brother, not to mention the political dynamite that would go off if he reached out to them in any documented way. just seems like yet another bullshit "gotcha" story that's much a-do about very little.
Please name one "liberal" public figure that does not want social programs. That is the basis of their platform. Kelsey Grammer is a "conservative" and i know him to be neither raciest or homophobic, rather quite the opposite. Do you realize how ridiculous and malicious your comparison is?
mlmpetert
05-17-2010, 03:54 PM
dude, he's really busy.
President Obama plays more than Bush - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/golf/04/20/golf.obama.bush/index.html)
Bush was known for his love of golf, but figures released by Mark Knoller of CBS Radio, the unofficial White House statistician, have revealed that Obama has played golf 32 times during his presidency -- eight times more than his predecessor did during his entire tenure at the White House.