Arizona's New Immigration Law

while i generally agree and i dont like this law or any that unnecessarily expands police powers, i'm not sure that the "hey this infringes on my right to drive drunk" defense is the best argument to make.

I am jsut trying to convey, this law is not good for anyone who does not like being pulled by police.

Wrong you might want to read the law first. Seems like the left is more concerned of the illegals then the legal citzens that have to put up with this every day. 1 out of 4 people in jail are illegals.

Ever heard of cocaine?

I am jsut trying to convey, this law is not good for anyone who does not like being pulled by police.

Go read the law so you no what your talking about. They can only question someone if they are pulled over for something else like speeding first.

Sounds like a Salem Witch Hunt to me.

How do European countries "defend" their boarders or deal with illegals? I am just wondering since it would seem that would have to be an issue every there considering the number countries that boarder each other.

to my limited understanding alot of countries in the EU only accept "professional" immigrants. such as computer techs from india vs black guy from africa.

Well let's just say cops will pull you over for anything if they really want to. I've been pulled over because my bumper was on top of the white line at an intersection, the cop said it's technically too far into the intersection, but they only do it at night to check for drunk drivers. They can always claim that you took a turn too fast or whatever.

However, I really don't have an issue if there's a citizenship check after a crime has been committed. Does AZ hand out licenses to illegals.. or what other type of ID?

Not sure some states do and I never figured out why a state would give an illegal an ID.

I would have thought someone would have started a thread about this but I guess I will. What's the point of this law? I don't get it.The primary point to this statute is to provide for the state to take action against any locality that refuses to enforce laws already in place. This law brings a uniform state-wide policy to bear to combat the problems that AZ has been facing for years while politicians on both sides of the aisle in DC bury their heads, while trying to appeal/not offend to the Hispanic voting bloc.

In a nutshell it makes the "sanctuary cities" liable for legal action by the state for not enforcing Federal and State of Arizona law. This I'm sure is a bigger problem in AZ than it is in VA. But I live in the sanctuary city of Virginia Beach. The previous Mayor and police chief had a policy to not report illegals to ICE, in addition to the burden illegal immigrants put on the City services (police, medical, social services) two teenage girls are dead, directly because of this policy (killed by a drunk driving illegal who had been released twice before for alcohol issues).

Here's the a link to the actual text of the statutes:

Text of Arizona's Anti-Illegal Immigration Law - Part 1 | KEYTLaw (http://www.keytlaw.com/blog/2010/04/anti-illegal-immigration-law-part-1/)

These statutes seek enforcement not only directly against illegal immigrants but also against companies that employ them.

President Obama is making a purely political play (and he damn well knows it) in misrepresenting what these statutes contain. This isn't about racism, it's about AZ protecting the people of the state from the negative consequences of illegal immigrants. Unfortunately, the murder of the rancher was the straw that broke the camels' back.

to my limited understanding alot of countries in the EU only accept "professional" immigrants. such as computer techs from india vs black guy from africa.

I think you're right. And they've been experiencing a huge influx of Eastern Europeans, with skills, which landed Gordon Brown in hot water yesterday for a comment he made about the problem.

Anyway, some believe the immigrants have helped improve the UK's economy over the past three years, while others are complaining that the unemployment rate among Brits is going through the roof.

I worked for the montgomery county circuit court for a bit, dealt with a lot of major crimes, murders, MS-13, rapes, etc.

the percent of child sexual offenders who were illegal aliens was astonishing. im talking 3 out of 4 offenders. sometimes on their own daughter (that guy decided not to show up day 2 of trial, he probably lives in your neighborhood now since ICE wasnt involved), sometimes an illegal would get all drunk and climb into a 10 year old girls bedroom hovering over her right before the dad came in.

im not making a generalization, im basing this strictly what i experienced. it was astonishing, the percent of illegals that have sexual predator addictions. different culture i assume plays into it.

of course, md and va have a higher number of illegals than say kansas (i assume).

Go read the law so you no what your talking about. They can only question someone if they are pulled over for something else like speeding first.

It's the demographic bomb. I hate to say that word demographics out loud. It makes my fellow countrymen uneasy.

Well I live here in Phoenix and the illegal immigrant issue is a big problem. They are receiving benefits, food stamps and getting health coverage. I feel torn, as do many here in AZ, about this law. On one hand, I am all for getting control of the problem but I can also see the other side. Some law enforcement will certainly abuse this.