Arizona's New Immigration Law

It means they are exactling revenge fot the killing of tehe big time good ole boy rancher. My question is was the murder drug related? Seems like if you have a ranch on the Mexico-U.S. border you could easily make a few million a week as a drug pass through. Money talks. It attacks constitional rights of everyone. It says you can be pulled for no reason at all, "if your suspected of being illegal". What if I'm coming home at night from having a couple beers and get pulled for this garbage. You can't tell if someone is hispanic if it's night, and you are a cop pulling over cars. Same for roadblocks. They could set up road blocks that wouldn't be profiling, but who needs to give the police more powers to set up roadblocks.

Well people seem to leave off the point that the officer must first have a reason for pulling the person over or approaching them. When they ask for a form of ID if the person does not have one then the officer is now required to follow up and either see documintation or take the person in. I don't see what the big deal is. I have been pulled without an driver lic. and in a matter of a minute or two a cop can verify who I am. Now if I'm an illegal I guess the cop will not be able to do this and thus your sent packing.

How do you define "reasonably suspect"? And exactly what does an illegal immigrant look like anyways?

Two things, well probably more than that, are wrong with this law.

1) You can get pulled over or questioned by a police officer if they "reasonably suspect" you are an illegal immigrant. This law is blatantly oriented towards Hispanics. No other way around it.

2) It does absolutely nothing to address securing the borders. Nothing.

Read the law before your speak about what it does and does not do because this statement is false.

How do you define "reasonably suspect"? And exactly what does an illegal immigrant look like anyways?
i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.

It attacks constitional rights of everyone. It says you can be pulled for no reason at all, "if your suspected of being illegal". What if I'm coming home at night from having a couple beers and get pulled for this garbage. You can't tell if someone is hispanic if it's night, and you are a cop pulling over cars. Same for roadblocks. They could set up road blocks that wouldn't be profiling, but who needs to give the police more powers to set up roadblocks.


while i generally agree and i dont like this law or any that unnecessarily expands police powers, i'm not sure that the "hey this infringes on my right to drive drunk" defense is the best argument to make.

It means they are exactling revenge fot the killing of tehe big time good ole boy rancher. My question is was the murder drug related? Seems like if you have a ranch on the Mexico-U.S. border you could easily make a few million a week as a drug pass through. Money talks. It attacks constitional rights of everyone. It says you can be pulled for no reason at all, "if your suspected of being illegal". What if I'm coming home at night from having a couple beers and get pulled for this garbage. You can't tell if someone is hispanic if it's night, and you are a cop pulling over cars. Same for roadblocks. They could set up road blocks that wouldn't be profiling, but who needs to give the police more powers to set up roadblocks.

Wrong you might want to read the law first. Seems like the left is more concerned of the illegals then the legal citzens that have to put up with this every day. 1 out of 4 people in jail are illegals.

i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.


ha, the "liberal media," that's the biggest myth there is....
but that's another thread.

i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.

What does liberal media have to do with my reply? The liberal media didn't write the law. LOL You're a piece a work sometimes:)

Here's what the provision in the law actually reads:
"For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency…where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person…"

Sounds like a Salem Witch Hunt to me.

How do European countries "defend" their boarders or deal with illegals? I am just wondering since it would seem that would have to be an issue every there considering the number countries that boarder each other.

Read the law before your speak about what it does and does not do because this statement is false.
Well let's just say cops will pull you over for anything if they really want to. I've been pulled over because my bumper was on top of the white line at an intersection, the cop said it's technically too far into the intersection, but they only do it at night to check for drunk drivers. They can always claim that you took a turn too fast or whatever.

However, I really don't have an issue if there's a citizenship check after a crime has been committed. Does AZ hand out licenses to illegals.. or what other type of ID?