The Goat
05-01-2010, 06:12 PM
This is easily the most talented defense he's overseen in a while. Also I think it's important to realize that many great defensive coordinators go on to be head coaches with struggling defenses.
Marvin Lewis is probably the most prominent example with his success coaching the greatest defense of all time and then making the Redskins one of the better units in the league. Wade Phillips is another example of a coach who has been a DC for dominant defenses but has seen his defenses struggle when he became a head coach. Obviously Dallas's D is back on track but for a while they were struggling. Even Jim Swartz last year oversaw one of the leagues worse defensive units.
The thing is when you're a head coach you don't have time to micromanage what got you the job in the first place, weather it be coordinating an offense or defense. Thats why you need to find good assistants that can hold their own and a lot of these guys like Lewis and Phillips have struggled to find those guys. Rex Ryan on the other hand seems to have a more then competent defensive staff.
So I wouldn't say the Saints D under Haslet is necessarily a reflection of his ability as a D-Coordinator.
Wasn't he DC in NO for a time? Wonder what his unit produced?
Dirtbag59
05-01-2010, 07:26 PM
Wasn't he DC in NO for a time? Wonder what his unit produced?
Ask and you shall recieve (Defensive Ranks determined by yardage)
Saints (1996) - 21.2 PPG 13th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1997) - 19.2 PPG 6th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1998) - 18.9 PPG 12th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1999) - 20 PPG 11th Ranked Defense
Rams (2006) - 23.8 PPG 23rd Ranked Defense
Rams (2007) - 27 PPG 21st Ranked Defense
SBXVII
05-01-2010, 09:36 PM
LOL I'm actually taking a Friday night off!
...sometimes I start talking myself into believing we're on the track to awesomeness. The offense is surely going to fly. But Shanahan's track-record of defensive merry-go-round w/ his coordinators/scheme can't be shrugged off until he proves otherwise. Hopefully Haslett has figured some things out and can make his group a winner.
Ok, I agree. I think we all would have loved for 3 things to happen....
1- DS sells the team.
2- New GM.
3- New HC.
We got 2 out of the 3. I count that as a win. I can't imagine anyone thinking DS was going to sell the team. Why would he when it's supposed to be one of the most money making teams out there? I said it once and will say it again... you own a business that is making money, not just $40,000 above cost to run but millions. It's a proven business. Are you gunna sell simply because some customers are unhappy and want you to?
I do agree with you about our defense this yr. We were a defense lead team. I get the bad feeling we are going to turn out to be like N.E. a few yrs ago... all offense and no defense. I do believe Shanahan will turn the offense around. The big question is will Haslett let the 4th ranked defense keep falling down the ranks? He was a coach in N.O. and took over the team as HC. His defense was nothing to speak of. Then he got the job with the Rams and their defense slowly slipped down the ranks. Perhaps there were reasons other then him.
The Goat
05-02-2010, 02:12 PM
Ask and you shall recieve (Defensive Ranks determined by yardage)
Saints (1996) - 21.2 PPG 13th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1997) - 19.2 PPG 6th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1998) - 18.9 PPG 12th Ranked Defense
Steelers (1999) - 20 PPG 11th Ranked Defense
Rams (2006) - 23.8 PPG 23rd Ranked Defense
Rams (2007) - 27 PPG 21st Ranked Defense
TY! I looked for this on ESPN.com and NFL.com.
Hopefully Haslett has a '97 type of year eh?
CultBrennan59
05-02-2010, 02:27 PM
Changing the subject, does anyone know where Darren Sharper is planing on signing with?
The Goat
05-02-2010, 02:39 PM
Changing the subject, does anyone know where Darren Sharper is planing on signing with?
No. He's said the skins are a possibility because we could be on the way to a SB lol. I mean if that's his criterion just stay in NO...the offense will just get bttr and now the defense too because it'll be the 2nd year in Williams' system.
...i think he re-signs in NO.
Lotus
05-02-2010, 02:46 PM
Changing the subject, does anyone know where Darren Sharper is planing on signing with?
Don't forget that Atogwe is still out there, too.
CultBrennan59
05-02-2010, 05:17 PM
Don't forget that Atogwe is still out there, too.
Atogwe is a RFA
Lotus
05-02-2010, 05:32 PM
Atogwe is a RFA
But Atogwe is an RFA tagged at the lowest level. He's a cheap signing.
SmootSmack
05-02-2010, 07:00 PM
Sharper is really close to signing with the Jaguars, but I think he's hoping the Saints will beat the offer at the last minute. Right now, looks like Jacksonville
As for Atogwe, I think I heard he currently can't pass a physical which is why the market has been kind of dry for him. Not really sure though