Redskin Jim
05-01-2010, 02:27 AM
No doubt, the next coach should have an easier time than Shanahan hopefully.. and Zorn .. and Gibbs... and..
LOL, yeah they have a saying down here in New Orleans "Next Year". They always have said this about the Saints, that next year would be their year. I think some of the most shocked football fans last year were Saints fans with their teams success.
I have seen first hand as a season ticket holder here, a team that was a perennial loser, turn around and win the superbowl in 4 seasons. The Saints were 4-12 with all different personnel and schemes. New coaching staff, core players, and philosophy brought a SB.
I think we are heading in the right direction, but we will just have to wait untill the season to see how far we are from being a contender.
tryfuhl
05-01-2010, 02:37 AM
LOL, yeah they have a saying down here in New Orleans "Next Year". They always have said this about the Saints, that next year would be their year. I think some of the most shocked football fans last year were Saints fans with their teams success.
I have seen first hand as a season ticket holder here, a team that was a perennial loser, turn around and win the superbowl in 4 seasons. The Saints were 4-12 with all different personnel and schemes. New coaching staff, core players, and philosophy brought a SB.
I think we are heading in the right direction, but we will just have to wait untill the season to see how far we are from being a contender.
3-13 actually, with Haslett at the helm haha
Redskin Jim
05-01-2010, 02:40 AM
3-13 actually, with Haslett at the helm haha
Ha! Not a real confidence builder..
tryfuhl
05-01-2010, 02:52 AM
Ha! Not a real confidence builder..
haha we'll see.. we've seen a ton of great D-Coords just not make it as HC's.. this should let Haslett focus on his specialty, which hopefully will be quite special
NYCskinfan82
05-01-2010, 06:41 AM
haha we'll see.. we've seen a ton of great D-Coords just not make it as HC's.. this should let Haslett focus on his specialty, which hopefully will be quite special
Agree 100% some guys can't multi-task, but when you give them one thing todo they become good at that one thing hopefully that's Haslett.
HTTR.
The Goat
05-01-2010, 12:54 PM
haha we'll see.. we've seen a ton of great D-Coords just not make it as HC's.. this should let Haslett focus on his specialty, which hopefully will be quite special
But Haslett was a DC before an HC right?
Paintrain
05-01-2010, 01:14 PM
But Haslett was a DC before an HC right?
Yes, he's been a DC for the Saints and Steelers prior to being a HC and then the Rams for 2 seasons before taking over as interim HC.
tryfuhl
05-01-2010, 05:43 PM
But Haslett was a DC before an HC right?
correct, seems a lot of the failed HC's go back to it
maybe later I'll compile a list
The Goat
05-01-2010, 05:53 PM
correct, seems a lot of the failed HC's go back to it
maybe later I'll compile a list
What I'd really like to see is a comprehensive history of Haslett's accomplishments. Not resume style. Just really curious if he's produced top 10 or top 5 defenses as a DC...
Dirtbag59
05-01-2010, 06:06 PM
Yes, he's been a DC for the Saints and Steelers prior to being a HC and then the Rams for 2 seasons before taking over as interim HC.
This is easily the most talented defense he's overseen in a while. Also I think it's important to realize that many great defensive coordinators go on to be head coaches with struggling defenses.
Marvin Lewis is probably the most prominent example with his success coaching the greatest defense of all time and then making the Redskins one of the better units in the league. Wade Phillips is another example of a coach who has been a DC for dominant defenses but has seen his defenses struggle when he became a head coach. Obviously Dallas's D is back on track but for a while they were struggling. Even Jim Swartz last year oversaw one of the leagues worse defensive units.
The thing is when you're a head coach you don't have time to micromanage what got you the job in the first place, weather it be coordinating an offense or defense. Thats why you need to find good assistants that can hold their own and a lot of these guys like Lewis and Phillips have struggled to find those guys. Rex Ryan on the other hand seems to have a more then competent defensive staff.
So I wouldn't say the Saints D under Haslet is necessarily a reflection of his ability as a D-Coordinator.