|
Pages :
1
2
3
4
5
6
[ 7]
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
GusFrerotte 04-25-2010, 10:54 PM People who graded the draft at "D" or "F": why?
I gave it a C, but a D could have been warranted. Williams was a no brainer, but like JSarno said the TE and the WR pick was a waste. We already have a ton of TEs and if we were going to get another WR he should have been built like Marko or Malcolm. THe linemen to me were very nice picks for being so late in the draft and they fulfilled an important need. But since they were late rounders someone playing the odds will probably write them off as being cut or PS fodder. I think both linemen can make the team outright. Our LB pick was solid and I also think will make the final cut, but there are naysayers that doubt his ability since he was a late rounder. We will see how they actually do come the final roster, but if a few of these guys don't make the cut, this draft should be downgraded to a D.
Chico23231 04-25-2010, 11:25 PM I don't really fall into this category because I gave it a C, but I considered giving it a D because we took one starting caliber player (who wasn't necessarily the best on the board at the position), and then didn't pick until later when we took a bunch of projectable, but uninspiring, talent.
We also didn't haul in much by way of UDFA.
We improved ourselves through the draft, I think, because we had such obvious offensive deficiencies, that Williams wouldn't have to be very good at all to improve our offense by a factor of 3-5% as a rookie. I don't know how much credit we should get for recognizing our tackles were weak, but I believe it's more than some and less than a lot.
I could see an argument that suggests that Jarmon should be considered part of this class (not sure that I would move it to a B based on that), but people who think that McNabb/Jason Taylor should be considered part of this class are reaching for a reason to like it. Trading draft picks cannot be construed as a way to get value in a draft.
Exactly...Dont like that arguement either. Jarmon, Shanny and Allen dont have any alligence to him and frankly wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt make the final roster. So if he gets cut, our 3rd rounder, does this draft become a D or F grade?
I gave it a B as an optimist, but I dont think everybody will make the team actually think more than a couple wont. I know from now on I will be closely following Okung vs Silverback, to see who becomes the better Tackle. I think Okung was more polished, but we will see...
johno 04-25-2010, 11:32 PM i gave it a B. i guess B- if we were going to get specific. the addition of solid offensive line help was the biggest positive for me. everyone needs to relax about the TE pick, he will be a FB. the kid can block, and make holes for our stable of backs. if either capers or cook work into a starting position, we will really be in business.
Swarley 04-26-2010, 04:34 AM I gave it a C, but a D could have been warranted. Williams was a no brainer, but like JSarno said the TE and the WR pick was a waste. We already have a ton of TEs and if we were going to get another WR he should have been built like Marko or Malcolm. THe linemen to me were very nice picks for being so late in the draft and they fulfilled an important need. But since they were late rounders someone playing the odds will probably write them off as being cut or PS fodder. I think both linemen can make the team outright. Our LB pick was solid and I also think will make the final cut, but there are naysayers that doubt his ability since he was a late rounder. We will see how they actually do come the final roster, but if a few of these guys don't make the cut, this draft should be downgraded to a D.
but why take a WR like Marko or Malcolm that would offer nothing on special teams?
and arent Malcolm and Marko enough
I'm kinda surprised to see so many banging on the pick of Morris. As a blocker the guy looks fierce. I could easily see him winning the #3 TE spot and if he can play FB too... bonus.
Austin could stick over someone like Marko just based on his ability to play special teams.
Monkeydad 04-26-2010, 10:28 AM I'm going to give it a High B or Low A, voted B.
We did well in the draft. Trent is definitely starting. Perry Riley is a possible starter and a solid pick for the 3-4 transition. We also have a backup Center/Guard in Erik Cook who could esily become Rabach's replacement and Selvish Capers was projected mush higher than 7th and could easily make the team as a backup tackle. We also added a FB to eventually step in for Sellers.
The WR we drafted could be our returner too.
We didn't have any huge names after Williams, but every one of the guys we drafted can not only make the team, but contribute. Even our 7th-rounders are great picks and values.
Allen and Shanahan made a draft with very few picks into a very productive draft class. I think they did great with what they had to work with. It's not often you can realistically see every pick making the team, but I think these guys could do it.
724Skinsfan 04-26-2010, 10:42 AM Has anyone seen the sports science video on Selvish Capers?
AWESOME! This guy is a steal.
It is pretty cool.
CAo3MsI2AMw
I don't really fall into this category because I gave it a C, but I considered giving it a D because we took one starting caliber player (who wasn't necessarily the best on the board at the position), and then didn't pick until later when we took a bunch of projectable, but uninspiring, talent.
We also didn't haul in much by way of UDFA.
We improved ourselves through the draft, I think, because we had such obvious offensive deficiencies, that Williams wouldn't have to be very good at all to improve our offense by a factor of 3-5% as a rookie. I don't know how much credit we should get for recognizing our tackles were weak, but I believe it's more than some and less than a lot.
I could see an argument that suggests that Jarmon should be considered part of this class (not sure that I would move it to a B based on that), but people who think that McNabb/Jason Taylor should be considered part of this class are reaching for a reason to like it. Trading draft picks cannot be construed as a way to get value in a draft.
Well you have to factor them in somehow. A pick's value just doesn't magically disappear.
Scouts Inc. devised a formula that takes trades into account:
2010 NFL draft: Scouts Inc. offers up the results of its unique formula for evaluating each team's draft performance. - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=5133008)
SmootSmack 04-26-2010, 11:11 AM I gave it a C, but a D could have been warranted. Williams was a no brainer, but like JSarno said the TE and the WR pick was a waste. We already have a ton of TEs and if we were going to get another WR he should have been built like Marko or Malcolm. THe linemen to me were very nice picks for being so late in the draft and they fulfilled an important need. But since they were late rounders someone playing the odds will probably write them off as being cut or PS fodder. I think both linemen can make the team outright. Our LB pick was solid and I also think will make the final cut, but there are naysayers that doubt his ability since he was a late rounder. We will see how they actually do come the final roster, but if a few of these guys don't make the cut, this draft should be downgraded to a D.
How was Williams a no brainer?
I love how 1st rounders are always written off as no-brainers around here.
|