Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

I thought that with the QB's falling that it would be harder to move JC but it still seems like it's a sellers market for QB's, at least in terms of getting SOMETHING.

Who wants Jimmy?



34. Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min): Franchise QB of the future?
36. Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan): Former ND head coach Charlie Weis is he new offensive coordinator.
38. Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle): Lot of smoke-screens emanating from Mike Holmgren; how much does he really like Jimmy?
39. Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak): Passed on a QB in the first, but still need one.
41. Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf): Like the Raiders, still need a new QB.
48. Carolina Panthers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=car): Belief now is that they might make a play for Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199); could target Clausen for similar reasons.
49. San Francisco 49ers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo): It was thought he wouldn't get past the Niners in the first. Will they move up to snag him now?

They can't all end up with Clausen and McCoy.

Also can we take a moment to appreciate the 49ers line? If you wanted to know how the JC experiment would have gone by just loading up on O-Lineman then watch San Fran this year with Alex Smith. Still it's easily going to be the best line in the league in a year or two. Also keep in mind that I said a few years ago that the Jets would have the best line in the league after they drafted Nick Mangold and Fergusion.

Anyway here's the 49ers line as it stands right now.

LT - Joe Staley - One of the better LT's in the league.
LG - Mike Iupati - I hate his holding habits but he's still got the skillset to succeed in this league at a high level
C- Eric Heitmann - Savy vet thats not spectacular but solid.
RG - Chilo Rachel - Former 2nd round pick. Has been somewhat of a disapointment so far but still has the talent to succeed. Maybe now he'll play better being part of a better offensive front.
RT - Anthony Davis - He had great potential as a LT, but as a RT...wow.

Oh yeah, they also have Barry Sims, Adam Snyder, David Bass, and the guy they liked from Ohio State (Alex Boone) as backups.

I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year.

Trading away 2011 picks MIGHT not be the worst idea. I'm hearing that next years class will be weak because a lot of the best players came out for this draft thanks to pending labor negotiations. And at the same time I'm hearing that this is the best draft to come along in a while.

I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year.

Yes!! And with the prospect of a lockout to begin the 2011 season, we'll have plenty of time to try and figure out what to do with him.

Actuall I think it's going to be a moot point because I believe Haynesworth will come to camp in much better shape than last year and make a major impact on the defense.

I thought that with the QB's falling that it would be harder to move JC but it still seems like it's a sellers market for QB's, at least in terms of getting SOMETHING.

Who wants Jimmy?



34. Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min): Franchise QB of the future?
36. Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan): Former ND head coach Charlie Weis is he new offensive coordinator.
38. Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle): Lot of smoke-screens emanating from Mike Holmgren; how much does he really like Jimmy?
39. Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak): Passed on a QB in the first, but still need one.
41. Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf): Like the Raiders, still need a new QB.
48. Carolina Panthers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=car): Belief now is that they might make a play for Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199); could target Clausen for similar reasons.
49. San Francisco 49ers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo): It was thought he wouldn't get past the Niners in the first. Will they move up to snag him now?
They can't all end up with Clausen and McCoy.

Also can we take a moment to appreciate the 49ers line? If you wanted to know how the JC experiment would have gone by just loading up on O-LIneman then watch San Fran this year with Alex Smith. Still it's easily going to be the best line in the league in a year or two. Also keep in mind that I said a few years ago that the Jets would have the best line in the league after they drafted Nick Mangold and Fergusion.

Anyway here's the 49ers line as it stands right now.

LT - Joe Staley - One of the better LT's in the league.
LG - Mike Iupati - I hate his holding habits but he's still got the skillset to succeed in this league at a high level
C- Eric Heitmann - Savy vet thats not spectacular but solid.
RG - Chilo Rachel - Former 2nd round pick. Has been somewhat of a disapointment so far but still has the talent to succeed. Maybe now he'll play better being part of a better offensive front.
RT - Anthony Davis - He had great potential as a LT, but as a RT...wow.

Sure, most of these teams might want a QB but as I see it only 2 of them really need a QB.

Minnesota has TJ who has started for them before and possibly would have won the starting job had Favre not returned.

KC just spent all of that money on Matt Cassell and have yet to invest in his protection.

The Browns much like us have bought themselves some time by signing Jake Delhome

The Carolina Panthers believe that they have something in Matt Moore, otherwise why release Delhome. Don't feed m the Uncapped year BS there is more to it than that.

San Fran still has some faith in Alex Smith and they are going to give him another year to show up. Besides they have already passed on a QB yesterday.

So like I said, only Oakland and Buffalo truly need a QB. Truly only Oakland really needs one but Buffalo is the close second to the "need" category.

If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.

If the next CBA still has compensatory picks, then we'd get picks for them.

I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

link?

IF they really like Clausen, McCoy or Lefevor (sp?) then it's worth it to make a deal to nab them even if we don't get "value" for AH. If they really feel one of these guys could be the qb of the future, I think you make the deal.

I thought Gibbs' trade for JC was a good one. Sure, it didn't pan out that JC is a franchise qb, but the price of getting a qb of the future is worth it because you need to have one in place to prepare asap. Unless that guy is C. Brennan & they don't want to re-sign JC, then I'm sure they're still looking at the qb's in this draft.

Haynesworth is staying for sure now.

The Lions and Titans were interested and both selected D-Linemen. Also, Fisher said outright that the talks about Big Al are over.

There were other teams interested, and at least one still is. I think we should know by 7pm

There were other teams interested, and at least one still is. I think we should know by 7pm
7pm? 7minute rounds, so it's in the top 8 of the round? are you gonna start posting song titles to help us figure it out?

IF they really like Clausen, McCoy or Lefevor (sp?) then it's worth it to make a deal to nab them even if we don't get "value" for AH. If they really feel one of these guys could be the qb of the future, I think you make the deal.

I thought Gibbs' trade for JC was a good one. Sure, it didn't pan out that JC is a franchise qb, but the price of getting a qb of the future is worth it because you need to have one in place to prepare asap. Unless that guy is C. Brennan & they don't want to re-sign JC, then I'm sure they're still looking at the qb's in this draft.

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personally, i think this is a good time to expunge some players. get rid of jc, fat al, and whomever isnt going to fit long term plans for this team. granted the values of these guys may be 5ths or later, but..get some value.
hopefully they dont trade for clausen though First off no team is going to give a 2-5 pick for JC. Just not going to happen. As for Fat Al there might be a outside chance we could get a pick. Facts are that unless we give up more picks in 2011 draft we are not picking in rounds 2-3 today. I think Allen and coach know that sometimes it's best to pay the prise of bad moves of the past[trading picks] and move on. As for Al make him come in and work for the money. If he dosen't like it let him be the waterboy! He payed a lot of money and it's time to be a man and a Pro football player. Facts are if he dose well that is the fastest way out of here. But to be a problem just makes it harder for him and the Redskins and No one wins there!