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I do recall some people bashing on Portis a bit, I'm too lazy to look it up though.
I don't think it's as easy as saying we changed up the offense for him and now he's running well. We definitely added some wrinkles here and there, but it's not an entirely different system than we started the year off with.
Portis needed time to get used to the offense and get adjusted to a new line.
Everything seems to be coming together for him now. He's definitely not a system back.
SmootSmack 11-08-2004, 10:57 PM I like Portis, but last week he proved he WAS a system back. He didn't do that well in Gibbs' offense. We start using Denveressque blocking schemes and he has a huge game. Imagine that, Joe Gibbs actually wised up and worked to Clinton's forte.
Imagine that, Gibbs adapting his offense to his player's strengths. Not changing it wholeheartedly, but adding wrinkles, as Matty pointed out. Seems I've seen someone on this site repeatedly calling Gibbs too old and stubborn to change
SmootSmack 11-08-2004, 11:05 PM You're right illdefined. There were several people on this site who made those comments. But I'm not going to be the one to call them out.
I love Portis, think he's one of the top backs in the league. His cutback ability in the open field is unbelievable.
But I thought about what you wrote in another thread and I think you're right, I think maybe we do take him for granted. Maybe it is because we come to expect it, I don't know. It's almost like the complaint we make about the Hall of Fame snubbing of Art Monk. It seems like his career has been taken for granted because day in and day out he just did his job as was expected. No excitement, no flamboyance, just a consistent, reliable performer.
It's the same way with Portis, though he has flair. You know he'll show up so it's only a big deal when he doesn't
Daseal 11-08-2004, 11:58 PM Smootsmack, we've abandonned the old Gibbs style of football as far as the power running game (thank god) and it was a good move by him. Now, if he can switch the QBs Ill be a happy man.
I've questioned if Portis was a system back or not. One thing you can't say is he doesn't try. The guy's dedicated to winning. Gotta love it. I think he'll break 1500 this year and be in the top 3 rushing. Hopefully he can get more than 2 TDs and 1 throwing in the 2nd half of the season.
offiss 11-09-2004, 03:33 AM Here I am, as I said from the day we traded for him my biggest concern was he was a system back, I also said he couldn't play conventional Gibb's smash mouth football, I felt he would have success running the counter trey, because you can read and react but not even that worked, we put in some zone blocking as I said we should do because it suit's Portis's running ability, and guess what? We did, and Clinton is running again, great job by Gibb's and Buge's implimenting those blocking schemes on the fly and relativly quick I might add, I do believe that he is far more than a system back at this point, very few back's could do what he does in that system even though he need's that type of blocking scheme to be successful, he's far better than anyone denver has I don't care what kind of number's they put up, after watching him yesterday I have to say I believe we got the better end of the deal for Champ, I alway's maintained Champ is good not great, Clinton in this system can be great and if he stay's healthy I believe he will be a great RB for us, so eating crow is really not on the menu for those of us who insisted [dasael] and a few other's who understood what he needed to be a success for us, the fact that he's now having success as soon as we change the blocking for him only reinforces our assessment of him.
NY_Skinsfan 11-09-2004, 05:41 AM I can't believe how well Portis has done considering most of the teams admit that Brunell isn't a threat and they stack the box against him. To have 800 yards half way through the season is a great accomplishment considering the circumstances. Really, imagine where this team would be without Portis right now. I hate to say it but I don't think we would have won any games without him.
Imagine that, Gibbs adapting his offense to his player's strengths. Not changing it wholeheartedly, but adding wrinkles, as Matty pointed out. Seems I've seen someone on this site repeatedly calling Gibbs too old and stubborn to change
haha nice point
I guess the old man does make some changes now and then, huh
That Guy 11-09-2004, 10:08 AM Really, imagine where this team would be without Portis right now. I hate to say it but I don't think we would have won any games without him.
In every game we've won, portis has put up better numbers than brunell... Whether you hate to say it or not, its absolutely true.
VTSkins897 11-09-2004, 10:42 AM portis and gregg williams are the 2 that have given us the wins, portis being the on-field impact guy obv. as for ppl hatin' portis, who cares? i'm just glad they were wrong!
illdefined 11-09-2004, 11:02 AM Do you belong to another thread too illdefined? Maybe EXSkins?? I dont remember reading any of that stuff here.
nope, warpath is the only board i go to (on ANY topic, sadly). you don't remember the Champ trade doubts?? granted it was a while ago, but the silence has been deafening since.
just recently i had to argue he's our our offensive mvp by far (instead of Gardner?), and he was getting frighteningly little recognition in the gameball thread, even tho he ran for 150 yds against a tough run defense AND had a perfect QB rating!!??
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