Haynesworth trade possibly in the works

When has Schefter put incorrect information out there related to Shanahan? Also, when has he ever furthered Shanahan's agenda? You don't think ESPN would discipline him for that?

who said Schefter beleived the information was incorrect. Also, you dont realize that John Clayton also works for ESPN and he cited multiple sources who said Haynesworth was being shopped. So two ESPN analysts reported conflicting information. One sites several anonymous sources. The other cites an "anonymous" source who most definitely has an agenda. Its not hard to read between the lines.

I agree.
I would think that silence from Schefter would be more indicative of agreement with JLC's point, but I doubt Schefter would go out and play any part of a Shanahan media strategy using disinformation. My guess would be more so that Shanahan saw the media spinning away and possibly turning the situation into a J Cutler type one, so he tried to calm the waters through Schefter.

except that the great smootmsack himself indicates that Shanahan is willing to trade Haynesworth at a below market value. And tons of other reporters out there cite sources saying the skins want to move him and they'd be surprised if he's on the roster. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear it for some reason, but all signs point to the skins moving Haynesworth if they reasonably can.

Schefter is a professional who has worked and continues to work extremely hard at his job and to get where he is. He may be wrong, even the most experts of experts are wrong. And only Shanahan and Allen truly know what they want to do. But what they want to do may and has changed leading up to (and I'm sure during) the draft. But Schefter (nor JLC for that matter) is trying to push any sort of agenda.

Schefter is a professional who has worked and continues to work extremely hard at his job and to get where he is. He may be wrong, even the most experts of experts are wrong. And only Shanahan and Allen truly know what they want to do. But what they want to do may and has changed leading up to (and I'm sure during) the draft. But Schefter (nor JLC for that matter) is trying to push any sort of agenda.

i realize you may not have been responding directly to me, but I NEVER said or implied that Schefter had an agenda - Shanahan's the one with the agenda. To be honest, i'd be rather disappointed in Shanahan if he wasn't employing a good amount of strategery. Its refreshing when compared to the Vinny/Zorn days - when everyone pretty much knew everything that they were going to do long before they did it. Would you mind clarifying that one point i asked about earlier? I trust the information you share from your sources more than any official media outlet.

This is what needs to happen 1 or more of our so called team leaders should call AH & tell him you need to be here if they haven't already. AH is his own man but the call should be made anyway.

HTTR.

who said Schefter beleived the information was incorrect. Also, you dont realize that John Clayton also works for ESPN and he cited multiple sources who said Haynesworth was being shopped. So two ESPN analysts reported conflicting information. One sites several anonymous sources. The other cites an "anonymous" source who most definitely has an agenda. Its not hard to read between the lines.

I'll just repost what I did a few days ago, since it was missed:

The relationship between teams and the media is an admittedly complicated one. And the same media entity can have multiple sources within the same team making it even more complicated

Also, John Clayton did not say "actively shopping" he said "willing to part". And Schefter never said they aren't "willing to part" with Haynesworth. Like I said, they'll listen to offers for Haynesworth (more so than they would for say Devin Thomas) but they're not shopping him around.

except that the great smootmsack himself indicates that Shanahan is willing to trade Haynesworth at a below market value. And tons of other reporters out there cite sources saying the skins want to move him and they'd be surprised if he's on the roster. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear it for some reason, but all signs point to the skins moving Haynesworth if they reasonably can.

Who's smootmsack? Anyhow see above. Actively shopping and willing to part with are not the same thing. They're simply not. What the Redskins are actively trying to do is improve the team

This is what needs to happen 1 or more of our so called team leaders should call AH & tell him you need to be here if they haven't already. AH is his own man but the call should be made anyway.

HTTR.

If Haynesworth isn't going to be traded, then he most definitely needs to be here. However, since all signs point to him being elsewhere, he'd only be a distraction. Plus, ever snap he doesnt take in the minicamp is a snap one of the other guys can get. no sense wasting energy on a guy who's not in the teams plans.

I'll just repost what I did a few days ago, since it was missed:

The relationship between teams and the media is an admittedly complicated one. And the same media entity can have multiple sources within the same team making it even more complicated

Also, John Clayton did not say "actively shopping" he said "willing to part". And Schefter never said they aren't "willing to part" with Haynesworth. Like I said, they'll listen to offers for Haynesworth (more so than they would for say Devin Thomas) but they're not shopping him around.



Who's smootmsack? Anyhow see above. Actively shopping and willing to part with are not the same thing. They're simply not. What the Redskins are actively trying to do is improve the team


This is the important part. Correct me if I am wrong, but Shanahan and Allen have basically said, directly or indirectly, that they are willing to move ANY player if the compensation is right.

that statement seems somewhat contradictory. Saying Shanahan isnt "looking to unload" Haynesworth implies he either doesnt want to move him or doesn't really care either way. Stating that he "may settle for something a bit less than value" indicates he really want to move him, even if we don't get what we should. If either of the former statements were true, there would be no chance Shanahan would trade Haynesworth for anything less than value, wouldnt it?

I should clarify, what I meant to write and I think I did later in the post was that he's not looking to unload him but will consider it at the best value. But I, SmootSmack, hope that he doesn't settle for lower value. Mainly because of other moves that haven't yet panned out, I just hope they don't get into desperation mode here.

I trust JLC more than I trust Schefter when it comes to this sort of thing. his closeness to shanahan makes the accuracy of the information doubtful, especially when its to the skins strategic advantage to get false information out there. kinda like - whether it was about the search for WMDs or stories on the war in iraq, who would be most likely to report information closer to the truth - Fox News or the BBC? i'm not trying to get political beacuse I really don't care. I just think that, when agendas are involved, the media outlet with "closest" source is not going to have the most accurate information.

I don't completely discount your theories on Schefter having a conflict of interest with the Redskins. However, I don't give any credence to any of JLC's ramblings about "league sources" and "people in the know" or any other code words he uses to descise the fact that he is just spouting out of his arse. I don't think either of them are a great source when it comes to breaking news on the redskins. I think Schefter can be the best source for Redskins information as long as it's information that the Redskins want leaked.

I would be happy if we could get a couple of 2nd rounders for AH like the Broncos got for Marshall.

I would too. Hopefully we don't get too ancy and give him away. I'd rather him play for us this year. For god sake, he just got paid 20mill. You'd think he could suck it up and have a good attitude for a year.