Haynesworth trade possibly in the works

I would rather he play 15-20 snaps a game for someone else.
Really? That'd be about half his lowest snap count, which was in the Detroit game that he had to leave early in.

I trust JLC more than i trust Schefter when it comes to this sort of thing. his closeness to shanahan makes the accuracy of the information doubtful, especially when its to the skins strategic advantage to get false information out there. kinda like - whether it was about the search for WMDs or stories on the war in iraq, who would be most likely to report information closer to the truth - Fox News or the BBC? i'm not trying to get political beacuse I really don't care. I just think that, when agendas are involved, the media outlet with "closest" source is not going to have the most accurate information.
Has JLC been right or on time with ANYTHING this year that's about us? He's broke a few things league wide but he's usually 2-4 days behind what we're even talking about on here. Remember he was the one saying that we were top on the list for Porter, Dansby, Pashos, etc etc

Just not much of what he's said has actually come close to anything that's happened.

I trust JLC more than i trust Schefter when it comes to this sort of thing. his closeness to shanahan makes the accuracy of the information doubtful, especially when its to the skins strategic advantage to get false information out there. kinda like - whether it was about the search for WMDs or stories on the war in iraq, who would be most likely to report information closer to the truth - Fox News or the BBC? i'm not trying to get political beacuse I really don't care. I just think that, when agendas are involved, the media outlet with "closest" source is not going to have the most accurate information.

Well I'm sure JLC has no love for the Redskins FO so that (I think) would give a bit of a negative bias to his reports. Throw on top of that the whole "drama/negativity sells" makes me not trust JLC.

Has JLC been right or on time with ANYTHING this year that's about us? He's broke a few things league wide but he's usually 2-4 days behind what we're even talking about on here. Remember he was the one saying that we were top on the list for Porter, Dansby, Pashos, etc etc

Just not much of what he's said has actually come close to anything that's happened.

Well I'm sure JLC has no love for the Redskins FO so that (I think) would give a bit of a negative bias to his reports. Throw on top of that the whole "drama/negativity sells" makes me not trust JLC.

apparently, you havent been paying attention recently. JLC has consistently praised the redskins front office under its current front office structure. he's on the tony kornheiser show every week and almost goes out of his way to praise the way the skins have handled the offseason. also, the redskins did pursue everyone JLC reported they pursued - its just at the end of the day, the front office chose not to get in a bidding war and overpay for any of those guys.

regarding Haynesworth, JLC isnt the only one who has cited sources indicating the skins want to move haynesworth. in fact, everyone in the media who cites sources says thats exactly what the skins are trying to do - except schefter. while some of you feel schefter's closeness with Shanahan means he should be beleived over everyone else, i think we have to look at the situation objectively.

while i'll trust schefter to provide updates on acquisitions in process, contract negotiations, etc - i dont take a thing he says about something at face value when shanahan would have a strategic reason to be less than forthright - especially when everyone else is reporting something different that schefter.

Also, Smoot, would you mind clarifying one point:


-That said, Shanahan isn't looking to unload Haynesworth but he is listening to offers and may settle for something a bit less than value


that statement seems somewhat contradictory. Saying Shanahan isnt "looking to unload" Haynesworth implies he either doesnt want to move him or doesn't really care either way. Stating that he "may settle for something a bit less than value" indicates he really want to move him, even if we don't get what we should. If either of the former statements were true, there would be no chance Shanahan would trade Haynesworth for anything less than value, wouldnt it?

didnt JLC "break" the mcnabb trade? im not sure but i thought it was him over adam.

it kinda sucks to know good skins players (AH, rogers, landry, carter) are available but noone wants to pony up anything remotely comparable to what they would give us if we just kept them.

odd, id snap up landry or los for a 4th in a heart beat. AH, coaches call on whether he would want to deal with him and probably his demand for a new K, but id drop a 2nd rounder for him, especially if he says he'll honor his contract.

just weird to see such talent available all across the league with 2nd 3rd 4th rounders being treated like gold. boldin and a 5th for a 3rd and 4th? yes please.

didnt JLC "break" the mcnabb trade? im not sure but i thought it was him over adam.

it kinda sucks to know good skins players (AH, rogers, landry, carter) are available but noone wants to pony up anything remotely comparable to what they would give us if we just kept them.

odd, id snap up landry or los for a 4th in a heart beat. AH, coaches call on whether he would want to deal with him and probably his demand for a new K, but id drop a 2nd rounder for him, especially if he says he'll honor his contract.

just weird to see such talent available all across the league with 2nd 3rd 4th rounders being treated like gold. boldin and a 5th for a 3rd and 4th? yes please.

i think its a combination of teams really feeling good about what's available in the draft, although it would not surprise me if there was some "collusion" going on between league owners. there are quite a few talented RFAs out there and very few of them are moving. i think its possible the owners are trying to put extra pressure on the players to accept some less-than-favorable terms in the next CBA.

I would offer Campbell and Carter or Rogers to the Raiders for a 2nd rounder. carter is from the Bay area and probably wouldn't mind coming back here.

I trust JLC more than i trust Schefter when it comes to this sort of thing. his closeness to shanahan makes the accuracy of the information doubtful, especially when its to the skins strategic advantage to get false information out there. kinda like - whether it was about the search for WMDs or stories on the war in iraq, who would be most likely to report information closer to the truth - Fox News or the BBC? i'm not trying to get political beacuse I really don't care. I just think that, when agendas are involved, the media outlet with "closest" source is not going to have the most accurate information.


When has Schefter put incorrect information out there related to Shanahan? Also, when has he ever furthered Shanahan's agenda? You don't think ESPN would discipline him for that?

Really? That'd be about half his lowest snap count, which was in the Detroit game that he had to leave early in.


tryfuhl, don't fill the Godzilla haters minds with facts. According to them the only times he stepped on the field he ended the play rolling around on the ground.

He had nothing to do with single handedly stopping the Giants line, fullback and rhinocerous of a runningback on that 4th and one. He also had nothing to do with shutting down Dallas' short yardage plays.

When has Schefter put incorrect information out there related to Shanahan? Also, when has he ever furthered Shanahan's agenda? You don't think ESPN would discipline him for that?
I agree.
I would think that silence from Schefter would be more indicative of agreement with JLC's point, but I doubt Schefter would go out and play any part of a Shanahan media strategy using disinformation. My guess would be more so that Shanahan saw the media spinning away and possibly turning the situation into a J Cutler type one, so he tried to calm the waters through Schefter.