Haynesworth trade possibly in the works

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MTK
04-15-2010, 05:10 PM
It's really crazy to me that someone would support AH over MS.

Allen and Shanahan were brought in for a reason, the old way of doing things wasn't working. A new regime needs to do things their way. Just look at the changes made in Denver, first Cutler was shipped out and now Marshall. As great as those guys were for that team in the past, they were simply not a fit for their new direction.

Defensewins
04-15-2010, 05:14 PM
It's really crazy to me that someone would support AH over MS.

Allen and Shanahan were brought in for a reason, the old way of doing things wasn't working. A new regime needs to do things their way. Just look at the changes made in Denver, first Cutler was shipped out and now Marshall. As great as those guys were for that team in the past, they were simply not a fit for their new direction.

Why did it ever get to this point? Portis has been much more of a malcontent as a Redskin than Haynesworth, but Shanahan did not pick on Portis as he has with Haynesworth. Deciding to workout on his own or voicing his opinion that he would rather not play in a 3-4, but will if asked.....is that worth turning a player into public enemy #1? I really have a problem with coaches that feel they have to publicly make a player out to be the bad guy. Keep it behind closed doors like Patriots do, not in the media.

drew54
04-15-2010, 05:17 PM
tryfuhl, don't fill the Godzilla haters minds with facts. According to them the only times he stepped on the field he ended the play rolling around on the ground.

He had nothing to do with single handedly stopping the Giants line, fullback and rhinocerous of a runningback on that 4th and one. He also had nothing to do with shutting down Dallas' short yardage plays.


You're right but what was the record in those games.
I didn't watch every snap this season, but he did pull up lame quite a bit. Also he missed four games.

When he was on the field, there is no doubt about it he was feared by the opposing team and was a disruptive force.

My 15-20 snaps per game was wrong, here is the official numbers I found while googling for it. 573/795 = 72.1%; 47.8 snaps per game. He is on par with most other DTs for snaps per game. The difference is they are not being paid 100M.

And love Albert or hate him, I am with the Coach first and foremost always.

MTK
04-15-2010, 05:19 PM
Why did it ever get to this point? Portis has been much more of a malcontent as a Redskin than Haynesworth, but Shanahan did not pick on Portis as he has with Haynesworth. Deciding to workout on his own or voicing his opinion that he would rather not play in a 3-4, but will if asked.....is that worth turingin a player in public enemy #1?

I don't think it's anything personal, I would guess that even before this offseason workout stuff came up AH was identified as a player to be moved this offseason.

I haven't heard a peep outta Portis lately, have u? He seems to be playing the good soldier routine just fine. Regardless, CP fits in to our plans, AH doesn't.

SkinsfanNTX
04-15-2010, 05:37 PM
How about Haynesworth to the Lions for Gosder Cherilus RT, the Lions 3rd Round Pick #66, and their 2011 3rd Round Pick.

MTK
04-15-2010, 05:40 PM
How about Haynesworth to the Lions for Gosder Cherilus RT, the Lions 3rd Round Pick #66, and their 2011 3rd Round Pick.

I would say keep the player and make those picks 2nd rounders

Defensewins
04-15-2010, 05:48 PM
I don't think it's anything personal, I would guess that even before this offseason workout stuff came up AH was identified as a player to be moved this offseason.

I haven't heard a peep outta Portis lately, have u? He seems to be playing the good soldier routine just fine. Regardless, CP fits in to our plans, AH doesn't.

In your opinion.
We hear all this big talk about how Shanahan wants to change the culture and piss poor attitude of the players. How is keeping Portis who has a history of being the #1 selfish asshole on our team changing the culture?
Plus Portis has durability issues and possible concussion problems that he has not tested yet, not to mention his huge $10M a year cost. If our front office really thinks Portis fits into our future plans I disagree with them. Portis gives up ans stops running hard when things do not go well.

GusFrerotte
04-15-2010, 05:49 PM
I would say keep the player and make those picks 2nd rounders


AH is worth at least 2 second rounders for sure.

MTK
04-15-2010, 05:53 PM
In your opinion.
We hear all this big talk about how Shanahan wants to change the culture and piss poor attitude of the players. How is keeping Portis who has a history of being the #1 selfish asshole on our team changing the culture?
Plus Portis has durability issues and possible concussion problems that he has not tested yet, not to mention his huge $10M a year cost. If our front office really thinks Portis fits into our future plans I disagree with them. Portis gives up ans stops running hard when things do not go well.

Well I'll trust Shanny when it comes to Portis, he has a history there with him and knows him much better than any of us.

warpaint
04-15-2010, 05:55 PM
I agree.
I would rather have a roster full of talented players that make the playoffs more times than not, make an occasional SB and that do not attend any of the off season voluntary programs than a bunch boyscout type players that get pushed around.
Dave Butz and John Riggins did their own thing, never attended any of the off season programs and they were referred to back them as players that played to the beat of a diffrent drum. Nobody screamed about it because it was ok back then.
Now we got a bunch of whiney coaches and fans that bitch about people that are different.
I am most amazed at some of the misquoted stuff that Haynesworth supposedly said.

I agree with your comments. I really would like someone to post all the stuff AH has said. Because the only thing being said about AH being uncooperative is by everyone but AH. The last qoute AH said is that he was willing to work with Haslett on his scheme.

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