Haynesworth trade possibly in the works

That's a fair assessment. I wouldn't say that Plan B is to trade Haynesworth, but I would say that you're right on Plan A and that Plan A is moving slower than hoped

Ok cool, thanks for the clarification. Either way, it seems like the skins objective is to acquire more draft picks and/or specific players who fit the teams offensive and defensive systems and theyre willing to do go to measures some would consider extreme to accomplish that goal.

While your analogy might apply to someone like Chris Cooley (who hasnt been shopped at all as far as we know), i dont thinkit applies here. Before word got out that we were actively shopping Haynesworth, I would agree with you. However, as I said before, now that words out, it really doesnt make a difference. In fact, if we really realy want to move haynesworth, the best thing we can do is sit back and see who approaches us. At this point, actively shopping Haynesworth would make us appear desperate and result in us having to accept something far below value for Haynesworth.

I think you're missing the point. Prior to paying him 21M as a bonus, the Skins were actively shopping AH to avoid the huge cash payment. If we could have made that trade, DS saves 21M. Any team taking him would have to pay the 21M and so he was not particularly attractive financially.

After making the bonus payment (the reason we were shopping him), the impetus to trade him is gone. Now, if someone gives us a call and says "Hey, we'll give you a 2nd for Haynesworth" we'll think about it.

I think you're missing the point. Prior to paying him 21M as a bonus, the Skins were actively shopping AH to avoid the huge cash payment. If we could have made that trade, DS saves 21M. Any team taking him would have to pay the 21M and so he was not particularly attractive financially.

After making the bonus payment (the reason we were shopping him), the impetus to trade him is gone. Now, if someone gives us a call and says "Hey, we'll give you a 2nd for Haynesworth" we'll think about it.

i think youre missing the point. Neither Shanahan nor Allen were part of the front office that decided to sign Haynesworth. They don't care how much money he's being paid and they got approval from Snyder to do what they wanted, irreguardless of the financial aspect.

i think youre missing the point. Neither Shanahan nor Allen were part of the front office that decided to sign Haynesworth. They don't care how much money he's being paid and they got approval from Snyder to do what they wanted, irreguardless of the financial aspect.

Love that word. :)

They may not care how much he gets paid, but to assert that a 21M payout has no effect on their business decisions seems to be carrying their nonchalance to an extreme.

No, they don't have a vested interest in retaining AH as they aren't the ones who made the financial commitment to him. HOWEVER, it seemed to me that the reports from Schefter and such were that the Skins were shopping him at a bit of discount to avoid the 21M. It seems to me the only actual hard report of the Skins "shopping" AH came before the bonus payout. After the bonus payment, to my knowledge, there hasn't been a single solid report that the Skins have called any one and said - "Hey- will you give us an ____ rounder for AH". Rather, just some odd speculation that he's still available stemming from the Philly offer and AH's dissatisfaction with playng in a 3-4.

That's the point of CRedskins' analogy. We'll trade him for the right offer - but the right offer now is different then the one that would have saved us 21 Million.

mm can i get a bid here, a bid there, who who who wants to bid, 25 to you sir can I get 30? 30 anyone thirty, thirty to the man with the hat, can I get 35? 35 can I get 35? let me hear 35? Going going gone.

Sold: fat ass overpriced B for 30 cartons of Kool. Please come up and collect your fat assed B.

They may not care how much he gets paid, but to assert that a 21M payout has no effect on their business decisions seems to be carrying their nonchalance to an extreme.

No, they don't have a vested interest in retaining AH as they aren't the ones who made the financial commitment to him. HOWEVER, it seemed to me that the reports from Schefter and such were that the Skins were shopping him at a bit of discount to avoid the 21M. It seems to me the only actual hard report of the Skins "shopping" AH came before the bonus payout. After the bonus payment, to my knowledge, there hasn't been a single solid report that the Skins have called any one and said - "Hey- will you give us an ____ rounder for AH". Rather, just some odd speculation that he's still available stemming from the Philly offer and AH's dissatisfaction with playng in a 3-4.

That's the point of CRedskins' analogy. We'll trade him for the right offer - but the right offer now is different then the one that would have saved us 21 Million.

of course its different. before, we would have had to trade him at a discount, since the team receiving him would have had to pay him an absurd amount of money. now, we can trade him for more, since teams will not have to pay him the 21MM and he'll be extremely affordable for the next 3 years. A cheap team like Tampa or Detroit will most certainly be more interested in him now. Regardless, none of that changes the fact that Shanahan doesnt really want him on the team. If he did, he never would have been shopped in the first place. (the financial side of things works both ways. its a small part of the equation).

I hope we don't trade him this season.

Love that word. :)

Ha ha. It is one thing to use a double negative, it is another thing to misspell a double negative!

J/k BHA

LOL, i'm off today. i spelled smoot's name incorrectly and i dont think he appreciated it. :)