Big Ben off the hook again.

Yeah, I'm not going to fault the guy for buying shots alone, should be the doorman and bartender's job to make sure someone is old enough to drink before 1) letting them in and/or 2) letting them consume

Noway its the person buying the alcohol. If the minor is in a dark corner. There is really know way to stop it. Its just like when minors are at a party if they get in a wreck and kill themselves the law go straight to the people providing the drinks, not the store that sold the drink unless they sold it to the victoms.

Noway its the person buying the alcohol. If the minor is in a dark corner. There is really know way to stop it. Its just like when minors are at a party if they get in a wreck and kill themselves the law go straight to the people providing the drinks, not the store that sold the drink unless they sold it to the victoms.
When you bartend and sell multiple drinks it's up to you to make sure that the drinks are going to people who are allowed to consume them by law. If it was a 21+ club it's the establishment's responsibility to determine who is allowed in and out. Now if it was an 18+ and Ben was sneaking shots over knowing that the girl wasn't 21, he's to blame. You'll find that a lot of places won't just hand out large rounds because of this.

I am suprised that some type of punishment has not been announced yet.

perhaps the only punishment is that he's been placed in the substance abuse program, and therefore its confidential. Big Ben is back with the team working out now and will participate in the Steelers upcoming camp. i think those are signs that no substantial punishment is coming, which is very disappointing. i'm glad he's not our QB. if so, i'd stop rooting for the team until he was no longer with the team.

When you bartend and sell multiple drinks it's up to you to make sure that the drinks are going to people who are allowed to consume them by law. If it was a 21+ club it's the establishment's responsibility to determine who is allowed in and out. Now if it was an 18+ and Ben was sneaking shots over knowing that the girl wasn't 21, he's to blame. You'll find that a lot of places won't just hand out large rounds because of this.

Ok did the club have a 21 age limit? If so your right. He did admitt to providing the drinks. Now if the club allows 18 and up that girl would have had some type of marking on her permitting from drinking.

perhaps the only punishment is that he's been placed in the substance abuse program, and therefore its confidential. Big Ben is back with the team working out now and will participate in the Steelers upcoming camp. i think those are signs that no substantial punishment is coming, which is very disappointing. i'm glad he's not our QB. if so, i'd stop rooting for the team until he was no longer with the team.

Good catch. Also, Ben said that the meeting was "productive". I am reading tea leaves but that would seem to follow what you suggested.

If Goodell only hands a substance abuse punishment down, he is going to get killed in the media.

Whitlock will be all over him.

Ok did the club have a 21 age limit? If so your right. He did admitt to providing the drinks. Now if the club allows 18 and up that girl would have had some type of marking on her permitting from drinking.
I don't know the answers to that. She could've had a fake ID as well, who knows. It is still the bartender's responsibility to know where the drinks he's handing out is going. This is why in a lot of places you can only order 1-3 drinks at a time. If Roeth knew it's his fault too.

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Reading some reviews it seems like 18+, no clue on how they mark underaged kids, and black guys are routinely denied no matter what.

any way you look at it, the establishment bears some responsibility for serving underage persons alcohol. however, there's no denying that rothlesberger is culpable as well. he (knowingly or otherwise) provided alcohol to someone who was underage. its not really any different than if he engaged in sexual conduct with someone who was underage. even if the hypothetical girl told him she was of legally consenting age, he would have committed a crime.

i understand the alcohol thing is relatively minor when compared to everything else, but the way i see it, its the only thing he could actually be charged with, given the current evidence. its kinda like charging al capone with tax evasion. granted, rothlesberger is not al capone, but he's still a scumbag. based on everything i've read, hes a despicable, disgusting human being and best and he doesn't deserve to play in the NFL.

The GA DA said they had DNA, but the sample size was too small to determine whether it came from Ben the Thug. With today's technology I don't buy that at all. I think Ben is a lucky man and used money to buy the woman off. I have no proof, but I do believe that's what happened.

there's also the security video recordings that were deleted so police couldnt review them. unfortunately, its probably going to take another incident where rothlesberger assaults someone for him to be put away where he belongs.

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NM, move along, looks like the video will not post.

NM now its there, still not much to see.