Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Pretty much what he's said all along. The story is getting a lot of hype, but behind closed doors I have to believe they are interested in moving him for the right price.

Word is the Broncos might be willing to part with Marshall for a 2nd rounder, so if we could somehow get a 2nd for AH...

Good to hear, I still think that it had more to do with his bonus than anything else.

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

Great Thanks! That is both good to hear and backs up the impression I got. Next question: Is that different from how Shanahan operated in Denver? My impression as to his tenure there particularly over the last several years was that it was "All Mike, All the time". Further questions pending.

I'm not really sure. My understanding is that he has always insisted on final say but expects and relies on input from key people. But Allen's talent is really being that kind of exec, someone who can effectively lay out the scenarios and then hekp execute the plan

This crap is WAY overblown.
The big fatty just wants to diet alone to get in shape...
Heck, back in the day we'd lose Riggo or Jurgensen for getting in their face about frickin' offseason "voluntary" workouts...what about Shawn Springs a few years ago...he was our best defender...what about Portis when he was our best player...he showed up....kinda....he just pretended....what about Shahan with the GMen or Farve for that matter...leave the poor guy alone and let him show up and kick everyones ass.

I am not one of those that feel he had a bad season at all...
I think he escallated the Dlines effectiveness 100%.
I like Haynesworth....get off his back! He's a playa!

I think Mike S. came in and whats to install a new work ethic and I bet he first targeted Portis to be his example that no one is above the system

If that is the case....why have they gone after guys with historical attitude problems such as Larry Johnson...he isn't exactly known for being particular about his players being conformists....this is not Joe Gibbs who puts character first.

I just think Shanny has got a bug up his butt because he is trying to establish his Power ...and what way to do that better than to knock the big dog down...he's already essentially dumped the leader of the offense...he is doing the same with the biggest player on D.

He doesn't need to be such a bully with Big Al...he's kinda quiet for a Dlineman.
He's made his point, but we are a far better team with Big Al that without him...just look at our sack numbers year to year...not to mention how we got smoked on run D the prior year...especially against the Gmen on the edge against Carter.

I say....Lay off...don't mess with Haynesworth...he deserves a chance to work out alone and prove he is a stud

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.
Neither Shanahan nor Allen signed him to that contract.

Who do I side with "legally" or "Morally"?

Legally:

AH does not have to be here. There is a reason it's called "voluntary" work outs.

Morally:

AH makes a ton of money. I'd love to see him take one year and have to work in some of our jobs making not even a fraction of what he earns and having to be at work Mon. through Fri. all year except for his vacation time. Let him tell his boss "no" and expect to keep his job. LOL. He might have a different oppinion on where he should be afterward. For 20 mill as a bonus I'd do almost whatever my boss said...."oh you want me to be the RB...Ok", then run everyone over like a freight train. You want me to clean the bathroom in the locker room.... it would be so clean you could eat off it.

It is hard for me to forget Fatal Bert stomping on the head (twice) of the Dallas center. I was watching that game and I couln't believe my eyes. I pretty much figured it took two to tango but got way out of hand. As the years went by from that momment, Fatal Bert has done nothing to make me think that what he did that day was an isolated incident. Now we have his ill will blowing throughout our team. You may not chose to smell it but it's there.

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

Would it be any different if he just got paid a $21,000 bonus? What does money have to do with being a professional? I'd expect no more or less professionalism from the highest paid player than the 53rd highest paid player. Tying salary to leadership is always a foolish mistake. He should be there because of his teammates and his dedication to making the team the best they can be, not because he made more money than the GNP of most European countries.