Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

I think more of fact alot of people didnt want to believe it would be a factor. Ive felt he has acted like a damn kid since the last half of the season, but people give him a pass, while crushing peeps like D'Angelo or Los...I dont get it. If your making that amount of money, you need to keep your mouth shut, participate in team activities, dont talk sh*t to the media like a bitch, and be an advocate for the organization. He refuses to do any of this...he has been a major disappointment in the locker room, but great on the field when he is not injuried. And people want to make an arguement for bringing TO here...give me a f*ckin break, I dont want to see TO and Haynesworth in the same locker room together, it could be disasterous...plus for the stats guys, look at TO number the last couple years..horrible. But back to Hanynesworth, Im on the side right now of trading him for a quality O lineman or picks, f him

1. How bout this? He actually does show up to camp and participates and Shanahan keeps him and we have a PROVEN GREAT PLAYER instead of a prideful "pick"

2. All NFL players make a insane amount of money so, they all "need to keep their mouths shut, participate in team activities". Not just AH because he was offered and accepted stupid money.

3. "he has been a major disappointment in the locker room, but great on the field when he is not injuried" I don't care about locker room, all I care about is on field play. I'll take "great on the field all day long!!!!

4.As far as not wanting Haynesworth and T.O. on the same team? Yeah lets not get to much talent on one team! Give me a break! A

5. Trade Haynesworth? "right now of trading him for a quality O lineman" Just because our D is stronger than our O, thats no reason to take away from one to add to another. Thats how you build a mediocre team not a dominate one!

Im for hoping AH comes around and continuing to be a dominate force for the skins!!!

I like instilling discipline in the team. If you think back to every winning streak of substance that we've had since 2000, it took place under a disciplined coach. Marty got us to finish 8-3 after a 0-5 start. Gibbs had two big finishes to the season to qualify for the playoffs. So I love that Shanahan's got that approach.

But there are a number of things to reconcile here. We can draw comparisons between Haynesworth and Plummer, but the bottom line is Shanahan drafted Cutler at 11th overall, so he already had Plummer's replacement lined up. He doesn't have any semblance of replacement for Albert Haynesworth.

That's why you hear Schefter say we're not actively trying to shop him. The thinking on Haynesworth is likely that, for the right player or package, we'll move him. After all, we did try to move him for McNabb. But since we don't have a remotely adequate replacement at NT, we can't move him unless the package really is that appealing.

Unlike Plummer, it will be hard for us to move Haynesworth for a package good enough to make it worth the massive hole we'll have at the NT position.

Why don't they just make these damn workouts mandatory? Every year we go through this shit with at least a team.

Why don't they just make these damn workouts mandatory? Every year we go through this shit with at least a team.

Because they can't per the collective bargaining agreement.

Because they can't per the collective bargaining agreement.

Then coaches need to stop making such big f'ing deal out of it. Basically in any situation it becomes an "unwritten" rule then, and it is annoying and distracting (by both sides, players and coaches).

Why don't they just make these damn workouts mandatory? Every year we go through this shit with at least a team.

I think this is an excellent point!

1. How bout this? He actually does show up to camp and participates and Shanahan keeps him and we have a PROVEN GREAT PLAYER instead of a prideful "pick"

2. All NFL players make a insane amount of money so, they all "need to keep their mouths shut, participate in team activities". Not just AH because he was offered and accepted stupid money.

3. "he has been a major disappointment in the locker room, but great on the field when he is not injuried" I don't care about locker room, all I care about is on field play. I'll take "great on the field all day long!!!!

4.As far as not wanting Haynesworth and T.O. on the same team? Yeah lets not get to much talent on one team! Give me a break! A

5. Trade Haynesworth? "right now of trading him for a quality O lineman" Just because our D is stronger than our O, thats no reason to take away from one to add to another. Thats how you build a mediocre team not a dominate one!

Im for hoping AH comes around and continuing to be a dominate force for the skins!!!

I would love Hanyesworth to show up and act like a proffessional and be a contributing factor all season long. Then just do it??!! Ill take great on the field too that is why I mentioned it. Im not saying he is not a force, he can be dominant, ill give credit where it is do. Yes he can keep his mouth shut and act like everyone should and mostly does, a professional. That is not too much to ask, and IT IS EXPECTED. All these factors do contribute to Haynesworth possibly being let go or traded, Shanny has the rep, the article is a backing piece. If he cant get with the program, then trade him for good/great Olineman and a pick...Haynesworth best use anyway is a 4-3 DT, not anywhere in a 3-4, plus insiders have stated he prefers not to play nosetackle....and TO is old and talent has certainly dwindled, he is not a great player anymore and Bruce Allen is certainly is going to pay him what he wants, tooooooooo bad.

I would love Hanyesworth to show up and act like a proffessional and be a contributing factor all season long. Then just do it??!! Ill take great on the field too that is why I mentioned it. Im not saying he is not a force, he can be dominant, ill give credit where it is do. Yes he can keep his mouth shut and act like everyone should and mostly does, a professional. That is not too much to ask, and IT IS EXPECTED. All these factors do contribute to Haynesworth possibly being let go or traded, Shanny has the rep, the article is a backing piece. If he cant get with the program, then trade him for good/great Olineman and a pick...Haynesworth best use anyway is a 4-3 DT, not anywhere in a 3-4, plus insiders have stated he prefers not to play nosetackle....and TO is old and talent has certainly dwindled, he is not a great player anymore and Bruce Allen is certainly is going to pay him what he wants, tooooooooo bad.

Well brother, from what we learned from this thread, if he doesn't show up, he could very well be gone. I hope not.

I've spent all morning analyzing JR's post and found some of the comments most interesting. A very diversified group of responses. Someone posted the question, where is the PU in all of this, or is this a line they just don't want to cross?

Why would the players union get involved at all? AH isn't obligated to show, but at the same time the Skins aren't doing anything wrong by shopping him. Neither side is technically in the wrong, they just aren't on the same page.