SBXVII
04-10-2010, 02:04 PM
JC is a great backup. Thats all he is. Thats all other teams probably see him as. He needs to evaluate what he wants. Go elswhere and hopefully beat out some other poor sap and be a starter on a crappy team or stay here and be the back up and hopefully get a SB ring. His best chance to get it is here as back up cause I think he a lot better then Grossman because he's safe with the ball.
RememberRFK
04-10-2010, 02:12 PM
You may be right. I just have a problem admitting it to myself. After all the success he had in college, all the different NFL offensive systems he's been through and a great statistical 2009 season... he's just an average back up?
Pocket$ $traight
04-10-2010, 04:46 PM
You may be right. I just have a problem admitting it to myself. After all the success he had in college, all the different NFL offensive systems he's been through and a great statistical 2009 season... he's just an average back up?
He had a great statistical season last year?
jdc65
04-10-2010, 10:35 PM
I think we as fans and JC himself over-valued his abilities. It's fairly clear the rest of the league views him as a back-up. Hopefully Campbell can maintain his poise, and accept a back-up role here as I still think it is in his best interest. Most anywhere else he would go, he would most likely be a career back-up, where as here, he could expect some occasional starts and a chance to be a starter again in 3 -4 years.
The fact that he can learn so much from the 2 Shanahans and McNabb would be beneficial to him, and something he wouldn't get anywhere else. I don't think Shan will trade him for a 4th or worse, and JC should accept his new role and work hard to stay here. Hopefully he doesn't run himself off the team as Haynesworth is doing.
Beneil (diehard since 87)
04-11-2010, 12:57 AM
Okay, this thread is overwhemed by people who are not fans of JC and sprinkled with a few that either don't care or actually like him.
The fact of the matter is that Jason Campbell's 86.4 ranked 15th among QBs so statisticly speaking, he is better than 18 other QBs. 12 QBs with ratings below 80 like Matt Hassekbeck. This isn't including the dozens of other qbs that have started a few games like Byron Leftwich. There are at least 12 teams with significantly worse starting QBs than Jason Campbell. Now as yourself, how many great QBs are in the draft and where do the 12 worse teams fall? How many of them want the next eventually great guy and how many think they are a player away or want a good QB now?
To think nobody would want him is to ignore the age of Matt Hasselbeck. The Retiring of Kurt Warner. Leinart hasn't done the job right yet, maybe they would want him to have competition. The Bengals, for instance, have a Carson Palmer (83.6) who has yet to return to form since his surgery a few years ago. JT O'Sullivan is horrible, and Jordan Palmer... even WE passed up on that kid. Not saying it's what I expect, I'm just saying there are plenty of teams for whom the hiring of JC is an upgrade, or at least an option. He's not the best and safe to say he won't be gettinga hall of fame nod, but he's far from the worst and still better than plenty of other qbs
right21arm
04-11-2010, 05:16 PM
this whole thread should be blank
44ever
04-11-2010, 09:17 PM
We'll need Campbell.
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skinsnut
04-11-2010, 09:48 PM
He should stay because he'd be an awesome backup and we'd likely need a couple starts out of our backup for the next 3 years.
Campbell is an immediate starter on about 5 teams, though....and would fight for the role for another 10. I don't see how we can keep him unless no one is willing to give us good value for him...which is a distinct possibility...normally teams that have the 5 worst QBs are in rebuilding mode...Campbell is fine, but is not seen as a franchise level QB....that hurts our trading position
GusFrerotte
04-11-2010, 10:49 PM
In my opinion, it is in Campbell's best long-term interest to stay with Washington. I cannot see any team giving him a starting job, unless only as a caretaker for a rookie draft-pick. Every team that needs a QB will address that this year in the draft, and that is who they will commit to.
Staying here as a back-up and learning the system and scheme that Shanahan runs will help him out more than getting 'lost' in a place like Oakland, Buffalo, or St.Louis. Shanahan will run a complex offensive scheme that will improve Jason's understanding of the game, reading defenses, and decision making ability.
Playing behind McNabb will teach Campbell valuable leadership skills and quarterback responsibilities that he won't likely get anywhere else. McNabb also misses games and JC will be a contributor in a successful offense.
The other players already like Campbell, but him staying will build a higher level of respect from them and the coaching staff.
This team is going to win, IMO, and being a contributing back-up on a winning team looks good on the resume, especially if a Hall-of-Fame coach gives you solid props.
Jason is still relatively young, and when McNabb retires in a few years, Campbell will be ready to assume the leadership role while he is healthy, and only 31-32 years of age. Otherwise JC could be lost as a permanent back-up on a different teams for the rest of his career.
I understand he wants starter's money, and if he can get it; he should.
However, I do not see any team giving him a starting QB contract or making any long commitment in him.
In my opinion, Campbell should stay here as a back-up, and make the best of the current situation. I believe it is the right thing to do for his career.
Sorry Charlie, but JC has been in the league long enough to expect being a starter. Last season he was 14th in passing, that is just above average in terms of a 32 team league. THat means there were 18 QBs that were below him. Take in account that he didn't have a line or a solid WR corp and he should garner some interest from teams like Oakland, Buffalo, or Tampa Bay. Carolina might want to take a shot at him. Secondly, if Donovan stays for say 5 more seasons, what good does it do for JC? Learn the game for 5 more years? By that time he is ready to retire almost. Every QB wants to start and since JC has been or starter for 3 years solid and done a decent job with the drama he has been through, I think he can expect a starting job.