McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)

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Audi
04-05-2010, 02:45 PM
Well, no, you just made an ad-hoc attack to misrepresent what I predicted at the time to try to build a case that I don't know what I'm talking about here, EVEN THOUGH, my record gives me great credibility.

And once the argument leaves the point where you're debating the facts, it's clear you'd rather I be wrong than you be right.

No, that's not what I was doing at all.

I brought up your previous predictions to contrast to this following declaration you made:

"Again, you're not getting a prediction from me whether or not he will crash in 2010 or not."

I do see that you have a problem with following the conversation and sticking to the point, though.

mlmpetert
04-05-2010, 02:46 PM
I cant decide if I like this trade or not.This smells of the Brunell signing.Does Mcnabb have to pass a physical? Just cant believe philly would trade Mcnabb to us unless they know something we dont.If Mcnabb is 100 percent healthy then its a good trade for both teams,I dont think we gave up to much for him

It definitely has that Brunell smell to it.

They know that we have finished at the bottom of our division for about 10 years straight, and thats not likely to change much this year or next. They also probably had no intentions of resigning him after this year and thought that the Redskins could be likely suitors for him next year especially if we kept Campbell around this year. So yeah they send a their pretty good qb to us, but we are the worst team in the division so how bad could it be. So in exchange for a guy that was going to be cut in a year they get a very high second (immediate contributor) and probably a third next year.

Also for people that were against the Gaither potential trade for the simple fact that we can sign him in FA next year you shouldnt be for this trade. It’s the same thing, except a little more costly pick-wise.

wilsowilso
04-05-2010, 02:50 PM
I would like to state two things for the record.

I called on this site that Brady Quinn would be a bust.

I said one moth before the season started last year that I thought Jim Zorn was a great coach.


Brady>Manning

GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 02:52 PM
You're good at assuming shit about people who disagree with you. Too good. But DON'T go around recklessly using inference from simulation (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/folkpsych-simulation/)of what of anti-Campbell dumbasses argue is representative of what I think can work or not work in Shanahan's offense.

Alex Smith would not work in this O, because he's too much tied to the spread offense.
Orton and Pennington would not work as well because they can't attack the deep secondary, which in turns limits what Shanahan can exploit.
Brett Farve would be better than McNabb in this O. Just as good ability to attack deep, but better on the intermediate and shorter throws(quick slant).
Jason Campbell is woefully inconsistent. Throws that should be routine are a chore to him, and he has shown very little that he has other skills to adequately compensate.

Is that sufficient for you to stop calumniating me in that I think ANY(YES, YOU SAID ANY, which means all I have to do is mention JUST ONE example of where another QB would stink it up with Shanahan, and I mentioned three) QB is better than JC.

This isn't about stats. This is about McNabb's skillset. And I love to see your crazy argument that a one-dimensional offense doesn't inhibit the QB. Having a running game makes the probability that the D will bite on play action or think the play is a run MUCH MORE OFTEN.

Steve Deberg also had inflated stats. That didn't mean Walsh thought he was worth sticking with over Montana.Burden of proof is on you, dude. It's your claim that Reid's offense was so unbalanced that it make McNabb's job difficult, not mine. As a hypothesis, I think it's legit, but you might as well put "I think" before it because I don't have to agree with every distant assumption you make, just like you don't have to agree with the way I use completion percentage and sack rate to show value.

In the absence of personal expertise on what makes the Shanahan offense click, your entire argument is valueless. You critique me for appealing to my own expertise, but I'm very forthright in where I'm deriving my opinions. You just write stuff seemingly to make me read it.

GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 02:52 PM
I would like to state two things for the record.

I called on this site that Brady Quinn would be a bust.

I said one moth before the season started last year that I thought Jim Zorn was a great coach.


Brady>ManningThat's three things cleverly disguised as two!

wilsowilso
04-05-2010, 02:55 PM
That's three things cleverly disguised as two!

Whenever I know that you are around I try to make sure you are on the ball.

GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 02:56 PM
No, that's not what I was doing at all.

I brought up your previous predictions to contrast to this following declaration you made:

"Again, you're not getting a prediction from me whether or not he will crash in 2010 or not."

I do see that you have a problem with following the conversation and sticking to the point, though.Considering that I'm having 5 different conversations in the same thread, you'll have to forgive me for such fallibility.

You're still not getting a single-year prediction from me, just an obvious observation regarding the evidence that disproves that there are no signs of decline for McNabb. No idea why this reluctance to predict something I don't have a great read on caused you to bring up some wide range of things I predicted.

GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 02:57 PM
Whenever I know that you are around I try to make sure you are on the ball.I lol'ed.

MTK
04-05-2010, 03:00 PM
Funny how a year ago it seemed like Cutler was going to be a Redskin and rumors were out there about McNabb ending up in Chicago.

Beemnseven
04-05-2010, 03:03 PM
Now that it's done, I'm 90% in favor. But the one thing that's been on my mind is pick #37 this year. In the long run, wouldn't it have been better to take the two best offensive tackles in the 1st and 2nd knowing how horrific the line was last year?

Doesn't matter anymore though.

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