New possible trade/draft scenarios

I mentioned once that AH does not want to play in a 3-4 and someone said they thought it was more that he just didn't want to be the NT. Denver has a NT, so would paying off some of his contract or reworking it to spread it over another year or two, then see if Denver would trade Marshell for AH outright?

#1- AH is happy he's not a NT.
#2- Denver and Marshell are happy Marshell is out of there.
#3- The Skins are happy they have gotten rid of AH and picked up a #1 WR.

True but Dan Snyder didn't get where he was by pissing away 21 million periodically.

This is the type of decision where DS would have some input, and frankly, I think you could argue that he might deserve the final call on it.

BA and MS are being paid a lot of money, I do not think that asking them to manage a highly talented problem child is out of line.

I get your point to a degree, however the reason Snyder hired Allen and Shanahan was to turn around the awful missteps of the past decade. If they view AH as one of those missteps, then Snyder should lie in the bed he made. Of course Danny does own the team so he certainly could step in and have final say, but then the obvious question becomes, how is this any different than the past?

Why would any team do that? We are the desperate party in this situation.


How are we desperate? He stays and is a big force on the DL or gives us some added value in a draft we have four picks in. 2 and 4 for AH is not out of line for a team in desperate need of a DT like the Lions or Bucs.

How are we desperate? He stays and is a big force on the DL or gives us some added value in a draft we have four picks in. 2 and 4 for AH is not out of line for a team in desperate need of a DT like the Lions or Bucs.

People aren't banging down our door for AH. We are trying to get rid of him in a limited time frame.

Looking to fufill a need in a short time frame = desperation

I get your point to a degree, however the reason Snyder hired Allen and Shanahan was to turn around the awful missteps of the past decade. If they view AH as one of those missteps, then Snyder should lie in the bed he made. Of course Danny does own the team so he certainly could step in and have final say, but then the obvious question becomes, how is this any different than the past?


I think the $ involved make this a special circumstance.

I get your point to a degree, however the reason Snyder hired Allen and Shanahan was to turn around the awful missteps of the past decade. If they view AH as one of those missteps, then Snyder should lie in the bed he made. Of course Danny does own the team so he certainly could step in and have final say, but then the obvious question becomes, how is this any different than the past?

I get what you are saying here, but also...

I would have hope that we also hired a coach that can make best use of his players and not try to play them out of position (like playing Orakpo as a 4-3 LB or Landry as a FS). While a player shouldn't be telling a coach what to do, Haynesworth is right, he will be more effective as a 3-4 DE than a NT. Now, Haynesworth still has said that he'll play NT if asked to do so, therefore I don't know why Shanahan should feel that Haynesworth needs to be traded (unless you get a monster deal for him) or why he should feel that Haynesworth is a misstep.

I would lose a little bit of faith in our FO if they tell me that they traded AH just because he didn't want to play a position where he would have been less effective. This is the reason why I feel a lot of people here who criticize AH quickly forget how much they have complained about this team's terrible habit of having players out of position and not using their players to best of their ability.

People aren't banging down our door for AH. We are trying to get rid of him in a limited time frame.

Looking to fufill a need in a short time frame = desperation

Which I really don't think our FO needs to be putting themselves in this situation.

People aren't banging down our door for AH. We are trying to get rid of him in a limited time frame.

Looking to fufill a need in a short time frame = desperation

People weren't banging down the door to take over a inflated contract. Now it is reasonable and there is some value to gain from dealing him. I don't see desperation just "reloading."

I get what you are saying here, but also...

I would have hope that we also hired a coach that can make best use of his players and not try to play them out of position (like playing Orakpo as a 4-3 LB or Landry as a FS). While a player shouldn't be telling a coach what to do, Haynesworth is right, he will be more effective as a 3-4 DE than a NT. Now, Haynesworth still has said that he'll play NT if asked to do so, therefore I don't know why Shanahan should feel that Haynesworth needs to be traded (unless you get a monster deal for him) or why he should feel that Haynesworth is a misstep.

I would lose a little bit of faith in our FO if they tell me that they traded AH just because he didn't want to play a position where he would have been less effective. This is the reason why I feel a lot of people here who criticize AH quickly forget how much they have complained about this team's terrible habit of having players out of position and not using their players to best of their ability.




Fair points. You reinforce how dicey of a situation this is.

I personally think it would be a mistake to trade away Haynesworth. I know he can be a headcase but he's as dominating an interior lineman (even without pulling full effort into it) as the league has seen in years. He's a true difference maker.

That said, while I would personally disagree with the move, what Allen and Shanahan feel is best is what should be done. The Redskins knew what they were getting when they signed AH. Problem is the Redskins that signed him are not the Redskins of now.

I just hope they can get a proven player along with a draft pick or two, not just draft picks in return

Id rather have at least one proven player as well. I dont trust Shanahan and Allen in the draft.