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04-05-2010, 01:34 PM
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Time will tell. I think he's got 4 good years left.
I agree with this. Favre and Warner were two of the best in the game last year and they were much older than McNabb.
You know who else thinks he has at least 4 years left? The Mastermind.
GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 01:35 PM
McNabb has played 5 of 11 full seasons, in 2004 he was held out of the last game. In 2007 & 2009 he played 14 games, returning from minor injuries in each season. In 2005 & 2006 he had season ending injures. "hardly ever does" does not compute.Injured enough to miss two games per year on average (or 2.3 or whatever it is since 2005) is an unmistakable indicator of physical decline. Quarterbacks who have a lot left in the tank physically are the quarterbacks like Manning who play every game. Not the Hasselbecks or Bulgers who missed games well before they were ineffective.
GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 01:37 PM
I agree with this. Favre and Warner were two of the best in the game last year and they were much older than McNabb.
You know who else thinks he has at least 4 years left? The Mastermind.I would hesitate to call anyone who thinks McNabb has four years left a mastermind. Delusional comes to mind. Though you were quite unclear in who you were referring to.
Shanahan also leads in head coaching firings, and I'll put 1:1 odds on Shanahan getting "fired" here (includes a forced step-down) before he retires. So there's something else Shanahan could lead 2-0 in.
Not to put the tombstone on Shanahan before anything happens, but I think Reid has a much longer leash in the wake of this trade than anyone thinks. Neither coach has a job on the line this year. But Reid will win again in the NFL, and Shanahan's got a big rebuilding project on his hands.
You don't think the heat will be cranked up on Reid if Kolb falters and McNabb takes the Skins to the playoffs? Reid and McNabb were tied at the hip. The only thing left to change if they don't get the results they expect is Reid.
Seems that the Eagles are rebuilding a bit themselves.
SirClintonPortis
04-05-2010, 01:38 PM
Shanahan also leads in head coaching firings, and I'll put 1:1 odds on Shanahan getting "fired" here (includes a forced step-down) before he retires. So there's something else Shanahan could lead 2-0 in.
Not to put the tombstone on Shanahan before anything happens, but I think Reid has a much longer leash in the wake of this trade than anyone thinks. Neither coach has a job on the line this year. But Reid will win again in the NFL, and Shanahan's got a big rebuilding project on his hands.
And the primary area that needs to be rebuilt JUST HAPPENS to fall under his expertise: offense. I trust Shanahan because he has a consistent track record of fielding excellent offenses, not because "ZOMG HE'S MY LORD AND SAVIOR". The empirical data is there; there is no blind faith needed.
CRedskinsRule
04-05-2010, 01:39 PM
Cooley on Sirius NFL right now.
"Cool for me, tough for my friend JC"
"I am excited"
"DM is a definite winner"
"Hasn't talked to JC, but JC is at lunch with Mike Shanahan right now"
Chico23231
04-05-2010, 01:39 PM
I agree with this. Favre and Warner were two of the best in the game last year and they were much older than McNabb.
You know who else thinks he has at least 4 years left? The Mastermind.
What about Elway when Shanny got there? I think Elway was 35-ish...2 superbowl victories...McNabb is not Elway (top 5 QB of all time), but Shanny was able to motivate and was able to get it done before with an older QB, there is some stock to take in that.
GTripp0012
04-05-2010, 01:40 PM
The Eagles weren't going to give up McNabb for a 5th rounder. The price was at least a 2nd and there were other teams more than ready to give that up.Just one of a hundred reasons why it's insane that we ended up pulling the trigger. Had to outbid luminary organizations like Buffalo and Oakland.
Where were the winning organizations on this unbelievable opportunity? Do winning organizations not require a veteran quarterback?
Just one of a hundred reasons why it's insane that we ended up pulling the trigger. Had to outbid luminary organizations like Buffalo and Oakland.
Where were the winning organizations on this unbelievable opportunity? Do winning organizations not require a veteran quarterback?
Winning organizations already have a quarterback.
SirClintonPortis
04-05-2010, 01:42 PM
What about Elway when Shanny got there? I think Elway was 35-ish...2 superbowl victories...McNabb is not Elway (top 5 QB of all time), but Shanny was able to motivate and was able to get it done before with an older QB, there is some stock to take in that.
Elway also posted consecutive 20+ TD seasons when Mike joined the organization and his TD-to-INT ratio become closer to 2 to 1. Elway had never did that before then.