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Slingin Sammy 33 04-05-2010, 01:16 PM I'm not pushing personal opinion to be something bigger than it is. I'm just saying that it's incredibly rare for the voices of the masses to seem so far off. In fact, just yesterday, 70% of the Warpath was against McNabb here. Now, 66% are for it. You want to tell me what part of McNabb's game improved last night to make 150 Warpathers change their minds?What we gave up for McNabb is what changed my mind. I didn't even really pay attention to the rumors while it was going on because I felt that the price would be too high (a #1 +) and that the Iggles would never trade McNabb in division. Getting McNabb (a top tier QB) for a 2nd & 3 or 4th next year, not a bad deal when we have a MAJOR need at QB. If DM is productive for 3-4 years it's a good deal. If he's packaged in some sort of trade and we come out of the draft with 2 starting quality OL and one of the top two QBs, it's a good deal.
Let's say we stood pat, lucked out and got Okung at #4 and then McCoy at # 37. Do you think we're a better team for the next 3 years with McNabb or McCoy? You'll say McCoy, but you'll be in the vast minority.
GTripp0012 04-05-2010, 01:17 PM The stat I see going up is scoring in the red zone. I don't care if he get more yards then JC but I see scoring going up because he will thread a ball into a WR where JC would throw it away or take a sack.The problem in 2009 was getting to the red zone. Campbell did just fine when he was there, he just wasn't there very much.
sandtrapjack 04-05-2010, 01:17 PM The Skins lost the most games by 3 points or less last season. He only has to make us 3 points better per game and we are over .500. That's already more than I was expecting this year.
Yes, correct no arugement here. But I was thinking along the lines of the strength of schedule for the 2010 season.
You have to admit, the games that were lost by 3 points or less in 2009 were from what most would consider, below average teams.
2010: Packers, Vikings, Saints, Colts, Titans that is a tough stretch of better quality opponents.
Again, McNabb makes the Redskins a better team in 2010, but I do not think 6 or 7 wins better.
GTripp0012 04-05-2010, 01:18 PM What we gave up for McNabb is what changed my mind. I didn't even really pay attention to the rumors while it was going on because I felt that the price would be too high (a #1 +) and that the Iggles would never trade McNabb in division. Getting McNabb (a top tier QB) for a 2nd & 3 or 4th next year, not a bad deal when we have a MAJOR need at QB. If DM is productive for 3-4 years it's a good deal. If he's packaged in some sort of trade and we come out of the draft with 2 starting quality OL and one of the top two QBs, it's a good deal.
Let's say we stood pat, lucked out and got Okung at #4 and then McCoy at # 37. Do you think we're a better team for the next 3 years with McNabb or McCoy? You'll say McCoy, but you'll be in the vast minority.I don't think McNabb will be here in 2012, and I don't think there will be football next season. Keep both of those things in mind if you want my 3+ years analysis.
Ruhskins 04-05-2010, 01:18 PM No, in fact, none of them are half as accomplished as Andy Reid, who is feeling pretty darn loose this morning after planting McNabb on the Skins.
Reid>Shanahan.
Tripp, normally I would agree with you, but I would have to disagree here in regards to Reid and the McNabb trade. Reid appears like he didn't want to get rid of McNabb. Did you see the presser? Reid looked like a hostage in a ransom video.
SirClintonPortis 04-05-2010, 01:19 PM No, in fact, none of them are half as accomplished as Andy Reid, who is feeling pretty darn loose this morning after planting McNabb on the Skins.
Reid>Shanahan.
I'll take the guy who managed to get mediocre players like Plummer, Lelie, and Bell "high-level" statistical performances and helped an old Elway produce more TDs in a season more consistently than a younger Elway over the dude who can't stick to the run when he has to.
I think you just hate Donovan McNabb for no reason...
http://www.thewarpath.net/289070-post24.html
I expect Young to become a league-competant passer this year.
Young's probably going to be better than McNabb in his prime.
BigHairedAristocrat 04-05-2010, 01:22 PM First of all, Reid is not > Shanahan.
Secondly, I don't beleive for one second that Reid wanted to trade McNabb to anyone, let alone us. I think this trade is a clear indication that Reid has lost tremendous power within the organization and I think he's out if the Eagles don't go to the superbowl this season.
GTripp0012 04-05-2010, 01:23 PM Your point is not valid cause McNabb is better and has always been better than Delhomme. You're saying a college QB that didn't play in a pro style offense, that has limited arm strength is going to better in one year than a proven winning borderline HOF QB. Sorry but your statement doesn't hold up very well.I accept your rebuttle re: McNabb =! Delhomme.
Delhomme is closer to McNabb though than McNabb is close to the Brees/Rivers/Brady/Manning/Manning category. Those guys play 16 games pretty much every season. McNabb hardly ever does. In that way, he's similar to Delhomme in terms of age decline.
But I'm not expecting a McNabb meltdown this year. Just pointing out: it's coming sooner rather than later.
No, in fact, none of them are half as accomplished as Andy Reid, who is feeling pretty darn loose this morning after planting McNabb on the Skins.
Reid>Shanahan.
I know you love Reid but c'mon the real count is
Shanahan 2
Reid 0
2 as in rings
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