McNabb a REDSKIN!

We also have Richard Bartel, but you'll probably start at QB before him

That's the other one I remembered. I had forgotten we had Grossman.

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.

:rofl: that's great. made me smile. thanks

No. That's not what it's like at all. It's as if you had a 19 PPG guy and an 18 PPG guy, but the 19 PPG guy (who had averaged 21 PPG for his career, perhaps) had an injury history (so the 18 PPG guy had more points scored) and a large contract, and you traded for him anyway. Reasoning being: the 18 PPG player just isn't cutting it.

Age issues aside, that's a poor solution to a perceived problem.

So I'm guessing you don't like the McNabb trade?

Make no mistake, McNabb is light years ahead of Jason Campbell. Imagine if he had the durability and running game of the Redskins in years past (not this year, obviously) and Santana Moss as his number one instead of James Thrash or Dante Sallworth.

You, me, and Stink agree

I was at the movies and my phone started blowing up with texts about the trade so I am just getting details about it.. Personally, I love the trade. McNabb gives us legitimacy at the QB position for the first time in forever. Is he perfect, not even close. Is he the best we've had in more than a decade, absolutely. This is a move to win in the next 2 years with Shanahan. His history is with veteran QB, Elway was a veteran, he went to an AFC Championship game with Jake freaking Plummer.

This actually gives us MORE flexibility in the draft. If Okung is gone at #4 (which he probably will be) they can trade down without having to worry about going down too far and risk not being able to get a T or QB-now we just can focus on T and it also gives us the ability to trade Campbell for a 3, 4, or 5 rather than needing to hold out for a 2nd round pick we'd never get.

Eagles now have 5 picks in the top 80. We have 1? :vomit:

Yup. Cerrato trades high draft pick(s) for a big name vet past his prime, and he's the biggest moron in the NFL!!

Allen/Shanny trade a high draft pick for a big name vet past his prime and people rejoice??

I'll never understand our fan base.

Sure, this is for a QB (something we've needed forever), but the fact remains we have many other pressing needs, and now only 4 draft picks to address them. The Patriots have three times that many by the way. The best teams in this league build through the draft.

I've been "wait and see" on Allen/Shanny since day one. That fact remains. Big time.

What'd he say?
That McNabb does not want to play in Oak town. That it was a nightmare etc.

Im pinching myself, I cant believe all the opprotunities this opens up for Washington in the draft...They can take the best OT at #4 or trade down and pick up an OT and a 2nd round pick, that should be used on an OT as well. They can also trade Campbell for some later round pick maybe 3rd and 4th......WOW...the possibilities

I was at the movies and my phone started blowing up with texts about the trade so I am just getting details about it.. Personally, I love the trade. McNabb gives us legitimacy at the QB position for the first time in forever. Is he perfect, not even close. Is he the best we've had in more than a decade, absolutely. This is a move to win in the next 2 years with Shanahan. His history is with veteran QB, Elway was a veteran, he went to an AFC Championship game with Jake freaking Plummer.

This actually gives us MORE flexibility in the draft. If Okung is gone at #4 (which he probably will be) they can trade down without having to worry about going down too far and risk not being able to get a T or QB-now we just can focus on T and it also gives us the ability to trade Campbell for a 3, 4, or 5 rather than needing to hold out for a 2nd round pick we'd never get.

That my friend is optimism and I like it. I hope you're right.

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking...but how so?McNabb is probably 500-900 passing attempts away from being a player who just-can't-do-it anymore (think McNair 07, or Delhomme '09). Campbell figures to peak as a talent around age 31, or two to three years in the future.

I wouldn't want to be the guy holding the contract for McNabb's age-35 to age-37 seasons, but I'm that much closer now. And how quickly is he going to age behind Heyer/Williams/Rabach. Are we going to do anything to give up a chance behind that right side even after addressing the left side with the No. 4 pick?