Mcnabb to Washington?

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Ruhskins
04-04-2010, 01:30 AM
Getting McNabb would be a huge mistake. I just hope this is just BA f'ing around with other teams. I'm still amazed at how so many fans still think we're one player away from contending. We need to rebuild (starting with the oline) and stop wasting picks on what seems like a quick fix.

SBXVII
04-04-2010, 01:35 AM
Okay, anyone who's been keeping track, I am all for Jason Campbell and I don't blame him at all for our downfall. For instance the fact that he hasn't had a big win where he made the big comeback is not his fault. For example, he put up big numbers against Gregg William's Defense and almost beat the undefeated Saints. After an allpro level game, he BEGAN a bigtime comeback drive... then Sellers fumbled... so it's not like JC is the enemy and i do firmly believe that with the new system, and an o-line, JC can shine.

That being said, McNabb is, right now, a better quarterback... Period. If we got McNabb and lost JC... i would get over it. ESPECIALY if we picked up a 2nd or 3rd round QB to learn under him. JC training Tebow vs McNabb training Tebow... Hmmm...

Donovan would give us a legitimately higher chance THIS year and would allow for a better chance of a better replacement in the future.

LOL.

I don't think anyone would argue that the Eagles had a hell of a lot better OL due to their constantly replenishing the OL through the draft. Yet McNoodles stats are not that much better then Campbells. He had 5 more TD's. Only a few less interceptions with about 75 less yrds on the year. Due to that his QB rating was about 10 points higher? All because of the less yrds and fewer interceptions.

Yep, McNoodle is definitly a hell of a lot better.

tryfuhl
04-04-2010, 01:35 AM
Grab a young QB this year, even if it is Tebow, and build a Championship team around him as he grows into the position. In 4 years, our QB will be in his prime, and with a solid team around him.

no no no

on the Tebow part

GTripp0012
04-04-2010, 01:36 AM
33-year old McNabb isn't a meaningful improvement on Campbell. No reason to be delusional on this tire-kicking. It's merely a personal preference between two middle-of-the-pack guys.

When he's on the open market, lets consider him as a veteran stopgap. Until then, let's just calm down and let these trade winds blow over.

SBXVII
04-04-2010, 01:45 AM
Compare the stats....

NFL - Head to Head Stats (http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCN017517&player2=CAM375235&player3=null&player4=null&position=quarterback&playerOne=Donovan+McNabb&playerTwo=Jason+Campbell&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player)...

tootergray34
04-04-2010, 01:46 AM
Guy seems to always have some exaggerated posts. Or he's just a lil off.

ok ok ok, I might have some exaggerated posts...but I promise you i'm not a little off...I try to keep my posts comical...sorry if I offend anybody though.

McNabb is certainly not a BUM, i'm just referring to the fact that he is an EAGLE and I hate the IGGLES, so can you really blame me? But McNabb is certainly a first ballot HOF in my honest opinion.

But, I do feel the best QB if we were to draft one would be Clausen...I know wrong thread...but that's just how I feel. I don't have any screws loose so don't worry fellas. Although some of my posts may lead people to believe otherwise!

SBXVII
04-04-2010, 01:50 AM
I'm totally at a loss as to how someone like Campbell can look to have done better in almost each catagory or be relativily close in stats in others and have two totally different passer ratings.

Pocket$ $traight
04-04-2010, 02:05 AM
33-year old McNabb isn't a meaningful improvement on Campbell. No reason to be delusional on this tire-kicking. It's merely a personal preference between two middle-of-the-pack guys.

When he's on the open market, lets consider him as a veteran stopgap. Until then, let's just calm down and let these trade winds blow over.

GTripp, I know you do your homework but you are more than stretching when you lump JC and McNabb together. Now maybe you are basing your statement on statistical analysis but you haven't been qualifying your statements.

JC is a middle of the pack guy, no doubt. McNabb isn't even close. Here is the bottom line, Philly under McNabb has dominated the NFC East. It isn't even close. JC has accomplished nothing, and I mean NOTHING. He hasn't won any meaningful regular season games. He has won no divisions. He hasn't been to the playoffs, let alone win a playoff game. He has been to zero NFC Championship games and from a statistical perspective JC is way below the mean from a winning percentage as a starting QB. Do we need to bring up Pro-Bowls?

If we are talking about winning, which is why they step on the field, McNabb is a great quarterback. JC is a nobody.

So you need to be a little more specific when you lump the two together.

Pocket$ $traight
04-04-2010, 02:10 AM
Compare the stats....

NFL - Head to Head Stats (http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCN017517&player2=CAM375235&player3=null&player4=null&position=quarterback&playerOne=Donovan+McNabb&playerTwo=Jason+Campbell&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player)...


I didn't feel like looking it up, does it compare wins, winning percentage, playoff wins an division wins? Since the stats are comparable, those categories are comparable, right?

GTripp0012
04-04-2010, 02:14 AM
GTripp, I know you do your homework but you are more than stretching when you lump JC and McNabb together. Now maybe you are basing your statement on statistical analysis but you haven't been qualifying your statements.

JC is a middle of the pack guy, no doubt. McNabb isn't even close. Here is the bottom line, Philly under McNabb has dominated the NFC East. It isn't even close. JC has accomplished nothing, and I mean NOTHING. He hasn't won any meaningful regular season games. He has won no divisions. He hasn't been to the playoffs, let alone win a playoff game. He has been to zero NFC Championship games and from a statistical perspective JC is way below the mean from a winning percentage as a starting QB. Do we need to bring up Pro-Bowls?

If we are talking about winning, which is why they step on the field, McNabb is a great quarterback. JC is a nobody.

So you need to be a little more specific when you lump the two together.I was not aware that the wins came with McNabb as part of the trade. I consider myself corrected.

Why is it so foreign to lump McNabb in with the rest of the middle-of-the-pack NFL QBs? He's won one division since Campbell has been in the league, and Garcia started the final 5 weeks of that year. To give McNabb credit for that, we'd have to give Campbell at least the benefit of winning the WC in 2007. Playoff wins are playoff wins, McNabb has two since Campbell came into the league, and Campbell has no appearances. Advantage McNabb, but again, citing playoff wins of another team under another coaching staff that didn't have a Blache or a Zorn or a Saunders on it is exactly the personal preference I'm speaking of.

McNabb being a mid-tier QB is only one part of the story (as opposed to everything you need to know), but it's certainly true these days.

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