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Dirtbag59 03-29-2010, 05:39 PM Dude! You missed my downsized comment about my own comments!
Lol, nope just purposely deleted it. Ha ha good times.
Even the younger Shanahan story is fluff. What else is he going to say, that Kyle Shanahan is garbage? No, it's all fluff. Not to take away from young Shanahan, he's good, don't get me wrong, but Jason R. is just trying to sell papers.
Actually I thought that story was pretty good. I mean I knew Kyle was well respected and considered a prodigy but it was interesting to me to learn how he got to this point. Wish they got into more detail about him sticking up for Raheem Morris when they were out on the town.
celts32 03-29-2010, 05:39 PM Easily McCoy...I don't think tebow can get on the field fast enough for him to make sense for Shanny. As for McCoy...I am not a huge fan but I have read that if he projects as an NFL starter at all it is most likely in a West Coast system so he at least seems like a good fit for us.
skinsfan69 03-29-2010, 05:42 PM While there are major questions as to whether either of these guys can ever be a starting QB in the NFL, I would absolutely pick Tebow for 2 reasons:
1) Intangibles; he has far more upside
2) If he busts as a starting QB, he would most definitely be able to help the team as a TE/HB/Emergency QB. He'd essentially be an offensive Lorenzo Alexander.
See I don't get how he will be able to just go to another position. This isn't college ball. It's the NFL and there are guys out there that have been playing these positions their whole lives. His best bet is a 3rd string emergency QB and full time on teams. A guy who played QB at Va Tech has done it. Can't think of the guys name but he played on Jacksonville and Cleveland.
GTripp0012 03-29-2010, 05:42 PM I don't know if there's a wrong answer here. You can't really go wrong with McCoy, as long as you're willing to work within what he does well. On Tebow, the development path might be longer, and less fruitful, and ultimately probably not worth a high 2nd round pick, but you give me one of these two on a reasonable contract and a top offensive tackle (this is the key part -- the OT pick can't fail), and I can win a whole bunch of games with them.
I have McCoy as a mid-first round value, so he's the poll answer for me.
CultBrennan59 03-29-2010, 05:48 PM Neither...but if I had to choose one it would be Tebow because I'm a gator fan and because he's tougher than mccoy
Slingin Sammy 33 03-29-2010, 05:49 PM I don't think either one will have much NFL success, however McCoy's my pick if I'm forced to take one of the two. McCoy has better fundys, better accuracy, not necessarily better staight line speed but better quickness and "escapability".
murphy196 03-29-2010, 05:51 PM News flash!! Tim Tebow is NOT an NFL QB!! Yes, he is a great young man, YES he is tough as nails, YES he was a winner in College, but NO he will not be successful as a QB in the NFL. Guys please act like you actually know the game, there have been superstars in College that haven't even been able to step on an NFL field. None of the "experts" think this guy is an NFL QB and at the very best he is a 3 yr project before they would even trust him to get on the field.
SmootSmack 03-29-2010, 05:53 PM I'm kinda surprised Jevan Snead isn't an option here. I guess you couldn't bear the thought of seeing him get one lonely vote, huh?
I'd take Snead, Robinson, maybe even Skelton over either of them. But the options presented were only QBs that the Redskins have publicly acknowledged interest in.
There's been no public interest on the Redskins part in Snead, just rumors on Robinson, and while they've spoken multiple times with Skelton there's been nothing official about their interest.
dmek25 03-29-2010, 05:55 PM Tebow. to me, McCoy is a Brennen clone. not sure if Tebow can make the transition. but the guy is a winner. there is something to be said for that
GTripp0012 03-29-2010, 06:00 PM Here's how they rate in key statistical categories compared to QBs drafted in the last five years, and QBs in this draft class:
Tebow
QB Starts = Strong
Completion % = Above Average
TD Rate = Elite
INT Rate = Elite
Sack Rate = Average
Career variance = Above Average
McCoy
QB Starts = Elite
Completion % = Elite
TD Rate = Above Average
INT Rate = Average
Sack Rate = Above Average
Career variance = Elite
For comparison
Bradford
QB Starts = Average
Completion % = Strong
TD Rate = Elite
INT Rate = Elite
Sack Rate = Elite
Career variance = Below Average
Clausen
QB Starts = Above Average
Completion % = Average
TD Rate = Average
INT Rate = Above Average
Sack Rate = Weak
Career variance = Average
Caviet: TD and INT rates usually don't translate well to the pros. My reasoning: team effects and offensive systems can generate a lot of TD/INT production that isn't really due to the quarterback.
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