Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft

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Schneed10
03-31-2010, 11:50 AM
If Shanahan sees what I see in him, I'd be all for trading up for him. Give this year's 2 and next year's 1 if we have to. Nothing changes your franchise like an elite franchise QB.

Would we have holes to fill after that? Yes. But no other position on the field has nearly as much impact as a great QB does. I'm not interested in being good, I want to be great. I want the next Troy Aikman to make my team a contender for 10+ years.

Schneed10
03-31-2010, 11:52 AM
No, I would not. Further, Shanahan's drafts were almost as bad as Bruce Allens. Neither of them has ever done anything in thier careers to suggest they are savvy talent evaluators, so neither of them should be trading UP for anyone. Consider this: Jay Cutler is the best QB Shanahan has ever drafted.

Nuff Said.

Yeah but Cutler was great for a year with Shanny, horrible last year with the Bears. Plummer was solid with Shanny, horrible everywhere else. Brian Griese, solid with Shanahan, horrible everywhere else.

CRedskinsRule
03-31-2010, 11:54 AM
BHA,
What would Cowher do?

Schneed10
03-31-2010, 11:58 AM
And last but not least, Elway couldn't get over the hump before Shanahan. With him, won two straight titles. Give him the elite QB, and you give Mike Shanahan a chance to give you what you want.

Lotus
03-31-2010, 11:59 AM
I hope that Bradford tells the Rams, "I have always hated the Rams and I don't think anything will change that. So I will insist on a $500 mil. contract and hold out as long as it takes to get it."

Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.

Actually it makes a lot of sense if, as some have surmised, Bradford would prefer to play for Shanahan rather than for the Rams. Although the words were different, Eli Manning did something similar to San Diego a few years ago: he made it clear that he did not want to play for or be drafted by the Chargers.

CRedskinsRule
03-31-2010, 12:06 PM
Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.

Even if Bradford were to drop to us, I believe he would use the QB position and try to leverage it with us to get a good payday. He may also believe Washington will pay more simply because of the different FO's and ownership. I certainly don't think Washington would ever see a holdout, but the Rams could.

I also think the Rams will want a deal done pre-draft, if Bradford seriously wants to wait that could help him drop. Not necessarily to us though, because Mike Holmgrem might jump up for Bradford.

GMScud
03-31-2010, 12:20 PM
I am really excited to see what we do. IF we traded and got Bradford, I would be syked. If we stayed pat and got Okung/Bradford at 4 and McCoy/LT prospect at 37, I would be syked. If we traded down, say with SF or the Raiders, and got more picks, I would be syked.

Dang, I am way too easy!

That's what I'm leaning towards. The only guy I would really want at 4 is Okung (assuming Bradford and the two DTs are gone), but I also don't feel like Okung is that much better than a tackle we could get later on. If we can swing a trade with SF and have two picks in the top 17, that would be great.

I think so much of what we do depends on how Shanny really feels about Jason Campbell, and I don't think anyone outside of the organization knows that.

Colt McCoy's pro-day is today. I wonder if Shanny will be there. I want NO part of that guy. I'd probably rather have Pike or Lefevour.

freddyg12
03-31-2010, 12:52 PM
Even if Bradford were to drop to us, I believe he would use the QB position and try to leverage it with us to get a good payday. He may also believe Washington will pay more simply because of the different FO's and ownership. I certainly don't think Washington would ever see a holdout, but the Rams could.

I also think the Rams will want a deal done pre-draft, if Bradford seriously wants to wait that could help him drop. Not necessarily to us though, because Mike Holmgrem might jump up for Bradford.

What would be crazy is if we end up drafting Bradford, trade or not, and then he holds out for big $ (the qb reasoning you mention). Wouldn't it be something if the skins actually refused to pay a big name player what he & his agent demanded & a long holdout ensued?

I don't see any holdouts being too long this year though. With the uncertainty of a CBA & a potential lockout in 2011, any half smart player & agent will get the biggest chunk of change they can this year, even at the expense of some unfavorable terms later in the deal.

IrMitchell
03-31-2010, 01:01 PM
I seriously doubt that Sam Bradford becomes a Redskin, it's either Clausen or Okung. The Rams will not pass up on this, and the whole theory about Spag losing his job next year if they don't improve is a complete joke. If he doesn't pick Bradford and they still do bad he'll be even more criticized and WILL lose his job.
Now I'm not saying we couldnt get Bradford even if the Rams wanted him, but it's very unlikely and this kid seems like he really wants to be the best which starts with going 1st overall.
Why can't everyone pretend it's January again and talk about how we should get Clausen instead of Bradford because he's more NFL ready.

celts32
03-31-2010, 01:19 PM
No, I would not. Further, Shanahan's drafts were almost as bad as Bruce Allens. Neither of them has ever done anything in thier careers to suggest they are savvy talent evaluators, so neither of them should be trading UP for anyone. Consider this: Jay Cutler is the best QB Shanahan has ever drafted.

Nuff Said.

Well it sounds like you just don't really believe in Shannahan & Allen if you don't trust their opinion from the gitgo. Also...I happen to believe Cutler was on his way to greatness when he was teamed up with Shanny.

If they decide not to go after Bradford and draft Okoung or Clausen at 4 I will be fine with that also. I just believe that a franchise QB trumps all other needs. If they feel they identified one then I am all for them making it happen.

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