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SmootSmack 03-30-2010, 07:12 PM You think that NO would cough up a first for Landry?
No, 2nd or 3rd probably. And I'm not advocating the above scenario, just thinking out loud of some possibilities. If Bradford is there at #4 I would take him, but I wouldn't trade up for him.
Dirtbag59 03-30-2010, 07:17 PM Taking Clausen completely out of the equation, no way we should move up for Bradford. I hope the FO continues to show measured restraint.
"In hopes that they draft the guy I want them to" :D
NM Redskin 03-30-2010, 07:46 PM I think (know?) Bradford would rather play for the Redskins. But I don't see him getting past the Rams either. I don't know what we can offer. I know they want Montgomery, but Campbell, #4, Montgomery? You have to offer more.
Maybe throw in another couple of 2011 picks, get Atogwe as well. Trade Landry to New Orleans for their 1st rounder. Get a OL there, hopefully keep our 2nd round pick, get another OL there?
Is there any way Bradford could leverage his way to Redskins? Basically say he wont sign a contract with. Kinda like J Russell, E. Manning. Or is STL gonna throw so much green it aint gonna matter?
GTripp0012 03-30-2010, 08:00 PM You know, if the Rams could get multiple first round picks and at least one day two pick from us to have Clausen (with the #4 pick) instead of Bradford, I'm not sure how they could possibly talk themselves into thinking Bradford is worth more than that package.
I also think Gil Brandt is really out on a much weaker limb than it appears, though no one with any clout (as in, someone who is not me) is going to call him on it because of who he is.
If what he knows is that Shanahan has a hard-on for Bradford, well, I mean, how many players do you think Shanahan has passed on over the course of his career that he felt could have been complete franchise-changers? Probably one or two a season. So he's been around the block before, and knows that the picks he would trade to deliver Bradford would just end up being his future franchise changers.
SmootSmack 03-30-2010, 08:45 PM Is there any way Bradford could leverage his way to Redskins? Basically say he wont sign a contract with. Kinda like J Russell, E. Manning. Or is STL gonna throw so much green it aint gonna matter?
I think they'll so much green, but who knows for sure. It'd be easier if they had the ownership situation officially resolved
Lotus 03-30-2010, 09:50 PM Is there any way Bradford could leverage his way to Redskins? Basically say he wont sign a contract with. Kinda like J Russell, E. Manning. Or is STL gonna throw so much green it aint gonna matter?
I hope that Bradford tells the Rams, "I have always hated the Rams and I don't think anything will change that. So I will insist on a $500 mil. contract and hold out as long as it takes to get it."
ChickenMonkey 03-31-2010, 01:20 AM This Sam Bradford Pro Day sounds exactly like 2005..Alex Smith #1 overall
QB Alex Smith had a tremendous workout in Salt Lake City, making his case to be the first player selected in the draft. Smith threw for 45 minutes and was lights out. His performance was so good, those in attendance gave the Utah passer an ovation at the workouts completion.
Guess who went second all the way down at #24 if the first round???
Arron Rogers is one of the draft's most complete quarterbacks, but he doesn't have prototypical size. He's listed at 6-2, but is probably more like 6-1, possibly shorter. There are also concerns that he could be a system quarterback coming out of a QB friendly offense at CAL
(Sounds alot like Jimmy Clausen)
Ruhskins 03-31-2010, 01:22 AM I hope that Bradford tells the Rams, "I have always hated the Rams and I don't think anything will change that. So I will insist on a $500 mil. contract and hold out as long as it takes to get it."
Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.
tryfuhl 03-31-2010, 01:23 AM Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.
unless you can get that QB premium.. didn't Matt Ryan do that?
Dirtbag59 03-31-2010, 01:37 AM This Sam Bradford Pro Day sounds exactly like 2005..Alex Smith #1 overall
QB Alex Smith had a tremendous workout in Salt Lake City, making his case to be the first player selected in the draft. Smith threw for 45 minutes and was lights out. His performance was so good, those in attendance gave the Utah passer an ovation at the workouts completion.
Guess who went second all the way down at #24 if the first round???
Arron Rogers is one of the draft's most complete quarterbacks, but he doesn't have prototypical size. He's listed at 6-2, but is probably more like 6-1, possibly shorter. There are also concerns that he could be a system quarterback coming out of a QB friendly offense at CAL
(Sounds alot like Jimmy Clausen)
The Aaron Rodgers/Jeff Tedford situation reminds me a little of Clausen's situation with Weiss. People were hesitant to draft Aaron Rodgers because of previous pro QB's that came from Tedfords system (Harrington, Boller, Akili Smith but mainly Boller for this comparison). These days it's not hard to find people trying to make comparisons between Clausen and Quinn and though the jury is out on Quinn it showed that just playing in a pro style offense under Weiss and having great intangibles doesn't guarantee success.
Still it is a pro offense and I stand by the statement that we have possibly the best QB coaches in the league (Norv Turner is also up there) and I think if they're comfortable enough with Clausen we'll be more then fine.
Still interesting comparison with the 2005 draft. Spread QB vs Pro QB and the concerns of playing for a QB guru.
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