WP sums it up

Ramsey's tenacity and strong arm have earned praise from the coaches, but his tendency to force the ball into dangerous situations and lack of experience in a more conventional NFL system -- Ramsey's 16 starts came under coach Steve Spurrier's gung-ho offensive schemes -- have worked against him. Ramsey was outplayed by Brunell in the preseason and threw three interceptions in one half of football against the New York Giants in Week 2 when Brunell suffered a hamstring injury, but is capable of throwing the deep and accurate strike that has been missing all season.

from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29165-2004Nov5.html

pretty much sums it it all up. in that article though, they say Ramsey isn't even practicing cuz it takes away snaps from Brunell. i don't like that, Ramsey should be getting more time with this offense and Brunell should be throwing at some paper targets non-stop.

Maybe the fact that he isn't practicing is why he threw three INTs in his game against the Giants. I'd rather have a player that makes more mistakes but still moves our team up and down the field than someone who makes near the same amount of mistakes and constantly 3 and outs. Look at the Rams, they do ok with an even TD/TO margin, and I don't think Ramsey would be NEAR that bad.

For those of you who have booed Brunell for his inconsistent play. What do you all think is gonna happen when Ramsey comes in and starts throwing ints or just misssing recievers? Fans are going to Boo him. This will only hurt is confidence which really is not all there in the first place. I do agree that they should be splitting snaps in practice. I'm gonna give Brunell this last game against Detroit. Hopefully we can see his vet status come out in the dome, where it can be a very disruptive place.

I think part of the reason Gibbs is holding Ramsey back is because he doesn't want to throw him to the wolves, he doesn't want him to have to deal with a sometimes porous offensive line and a unit as a whole that is still trying to get comfortable in this system.

The ideal situation for him is one like Pittsburgh has around Rothlisberger. A solid and consistent running game and guys who have been in the system, know it inside and out and can properly support him.

Pitt is doing a great job at protecting Ben and running the ball which has taken a ton of pressure off him.

If Ramsey steps into our current situation alot of the pressure is going to be squarely on him, and that's really not fair.

Ramsey has seen worse from defenses last year with worse protection and no RB. I would hardly call this years situation "the wolves". By the way, isn't putting someone in at the end of the 3rd quarter and down by 13 points, allbeit because of injury, throwing someone to the wolves. What's your take on giving him a full start so he does not have to try and win the game on every throw, which by the way he almost did? He is one Rod Gardner drop at the goaline from us all being silent.

from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29165-2004Nov5.html

pretty much sums it it all up. in that article though, they say Ramsey isn't even practicing cuz it takes away snaps from Brunell. i don't like that, Ramsey should be getting more time with this offense and Brunell should be throwing at some paper targets non-stop.


100% agreed iLL!

I think part of the reason Gibbs is holding Ramsey back is because he doesn't want to throw him to the wolves, he doesn't want him to have to deal with a sometimes porous offensive line and a unit as a whole that is still trying to get comfortable in this system.

The ideal situation for him is one like Pittsburgh has around Rothlisberger. A solid and consistent running game and guys who have been in the system, know it inside and out and can properly support him.

Pitt is doing a great job at protecting Ben and running the ball which has taken a ton of pressure off him.

If Ramsey steps into our current situation alot of the pressure is going to be squarely on him, and that's really not fair.


You know Matty, you can also say what came first the chicken or the egg? Is the offensive line pourous because the defenses are keying on Portis because they have absolutly no respect for Brunell? We have heard statement's that would lead us to believe that is the case both from Portis as well as oppossing defender's, at this point in the season I think Brunell has to go, we can talk all day about how Ramsey might not be ready, but the fact is Brunell isn't either, and the fact is if that article is correct Gibb's has no intention of coaching Ramsey up to speed if he's not getting rep's in practice, I say Ramsey would be a much better QB by now as far as mistakes are concerned if he had been playing all along, unlike Brunell who hasen't budged one inch as far as progressing as a QB, so long as Brunell is starting we are only retarding the growth of Ramsey as well as the advacement of the skin's as a whole.

Ramsey has seen worse from defenses last year with worse protection and no RB. I would hardly call this years situation "the wolves". By the way, isn't putting someone in at the end of the 3rd quarter and down by 13 points, allbeit because of injury, throwing someone to the wolves. What's your take on giving him a full start so he does not have to try and win the game on every throw, which by the way he almost did? He is one Rod Gardner drop at the goaline from us all being silent.

You know, that last line is a good point.. IF Gardner hadn't dropped that TD pass you could definitely remove 1 INT from Ramsey (the next pass) and probably take away another one (the pass he forced late in the 4th) giving him 1 TD and 1 INT. The way someone put it last week (maybe Wilbon) is the Redskins have a QB who can't make the throws but can see the field (Brunell) and one who can't see the field but can make the throws (Ramsey). Seems like Gibbs thinks the first is the better option. I would rather take my chances to open up the offense with Ramsey and put him in position to not make mistakes (like the Jets did with Pennington his 1st year) and hopefully open up some room for Portis to run.

Watching Brunell Play Is Like Getting Kicked In The Private Parts The First Couple Of Seconds It Doesnt Hurt But Before To Long Its The Worst Thing
Ever.

Go Ramsey

How will Ramsey EVER learn this offense if he's not taking snaps.

What is Gibbs doing? Besides giving us a talented, disgruntled backup? Contract year is coming up for Mr. Ramsey, and he will NOT re-sign if he doesn't even see snaps in practice. I think we need to work to keep him here more than pet Brunell's ego.