Kyle Shanahan Emerges From His Father's Shadow

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tryfuhl
03-29-2010, 12:15 AM
GWilliams had the next HC Clause, and where did that get him?

that report was false.. at least in terms of the compensation part

skinsfan69
03-29-2010, 11:30 AM
Exactly, too many folks here are saying how frigging great our WR corp is going to be, which is contrast to the reality of the play we have seen thus far. Last year the preview mags all pegged Thomas as having a breakout year only to see him have a mediocre year for us. Kelly had flashes of greatness towards the end, but the season was already lost. Mitchell did great in the preseason, but what does that count for? Can they break out this season? Of course they can, and I hope they do, but so far the only one that has showed potential is really Kelly.

Kelly has done nothing in two years. IMO he might not even make the team. I remember reading an artice a while back and it quoted an NFC East scout mentioning that Kelly simply can't seperate from DB's. We'll see if the new staff can put him in positions to catch more balls.

MTK
03-29-2010, 11:33 AM
Thomas has clearly shown more than Kelly at this point, not sure how that's even debateable honestly.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-29-2010, 11:52 AM
given the kindergarden offense that zorn ran and his hesitance to let our younger guys actually get on the field, i don't think its fair to judge any of the 2008 2nd rounders on what they've done so far. i'd go so far as to say that kelly, thomas, and davis performed as they did in 2009 in spite of zorn. we all thought Davis was a bust until Cooley got hurt and we actually got to see what he could do when given a chance. i'm honestly very optimistic about our receiving corps under a REAL head coach. at the very least, kelly will actually be put in games in our red zone offense.

last year, it infuriated me to no end to see moss and ARE as the only two WRs in the red zone most of the time. i even remember several occasions where cooley wasnt on the field. no excuse for any of that. zorn was in way over his head and our entire offense hurt because of it.

dblanch66
03-29-2010, 11:59 AM
GWilliams had the next HC Clause, and where did that get him?

A championship in New Orleans.

GTripp0012
03-29-2010, 12:23 PM
Thomas has clearly shown more than Kelly at this point, not sure how that's even debateable honestly.Based on 2009, Kelly has pretty much a clean sweep on the relative statistics. Any advantage for Thomas goes back to a disappointing 2008 where Kelly was just unable to get on the field, for whatever reason.

MTK
03-29-2010, 12:26 PM
Based on 2009, Kelly has pretty much a clean sweep on the relative statistics. Any advantage for Thomas goes back to a disappointing 2008 where Kelly was just unable to get on the field, for whatever reason.

The receiving stats are about even.

Thomas 25-325-3
Kelly 25-347-0

Thomas has the advantage to me simply because he also contributes on returns.

GTripp0012
03-29-2010, 12:31 PM
The receiving stats are about even.

Thomas 25-325-3
Kelly 25-347-0

Thomas has the advantage to me simply because he also contributes on returns.Which is fair, I think.

I do think a large number of people are overestimating how much Devin is just going to get handed to him in this offense, and I think we've seen that, when his opportunities are limited, Devin tends to not be willing to execute the small things in order to make himself successful.

To me, Kelly's greatest failing is that he hasn't separated himself from Thomas in this regard. There really is no reason he shouldn't have gone for 600 yards last year. I don't necessarily think it's too late to make the adjustments, but I do think Shanahan will cut bait after the 2010 season if we get more of the same.

SmootSmack
03-29-2010, 01:58 PM
Redskins Insider - Other voices weigh in on Kyle Shanahan (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/kyle-shanahan/other-voices-weigh-in-on-kyle.html#more)

Dirtbag59
03-29-2010, 02:04 PM
Eh it's a moot point. Mitchell will pass both of them with ease. The question will then become can he step up as a quality receiver. Also do we have a spot open in our receiving corps, at least on paper? By my count I see with Moss, Thomas, Kelly,and Mitchell leaving room for one more guy.

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