Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb

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Dirtbag59
03-29-2010, 12:02 AM
I think he has the right to refuse a trade to any team he doesn't want to go to, but if they give him an extention and the moneys right..... I also heard Oakland is willing to give up Asomugha for him.

Only in principle. Basically his best chance to stop a trade is to scare the crap out of a team that wants to trade for him.

did anybody really think jamarcus was going to be good coming out of LSU? be honest.

I personally didn't (can't say I said the same thing about Quinn) but apparently a lot scouts fell in love with him during the offseason leading up to the draft. I've heard some people compare his skillset to that of John Elway. He's also had one of the most impressive pro days in recent memory, weighing in at 256 and running a 4.8 40, then throwing the ball 60 yards from his knees. All the while being all but personally in-sync with his recievers at his pro day despite spending most of him time training out of state.

GTripp0012
03-29-2010, 12:47 AM
did anybody really think jamarcus was going to be good coming out of LSU? be honest.I think the more relevant question is: was there enough evidence available prior to 2007 to have concluded that JaMarcus Russell was going to struggle coming out of LSU?

To me, it's not retroactive history to suggest that yes, people should have been more aware of Russell's college flaws and bust potential. But I've long thought that the team that is picking first overall in the draft has an unbelievable amount of control over the way information regarding a prospect gets disseminated through certain channels. And had someone besides Oakland held the first overall pick, I think that the way Russell would have been perceived by the masses would have been very different, because I don't think a lot of teams were quite as stricken with him as they were.

There were some really interesting things written after that pick that looked fishy then.

Russell was only choice for No. 1 pick (http://prod.www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80025288&template=without-video&confirm=true)

I guess that's the lesson here, re: Bradford. A lot of stuff that's coming through is coming through the people with the Rams who are in charge of evaluating him. And that's one of the many reasons I think that Bradford is immune to some of the criticism that Clausen is catching. After all, did anyone get Mike Holmgren's opinion on Sam Bradford?

GTripp0012
03-29-2010, 12:53 AM
Which is not to say that teams that aren't the Rams aren't high on Sam Bradford. I think we're just as poised to take him as the Rams are. But any player who is going to get passed over in the draft by any team is going to have questions raised about his mental makeup, etc. Even if you're not going to select the best available player, teams are going to do whatever they need to in order to spin it so that the player they are taking is perceived as the best available. Everyone does it, not just the Raiders.

And I think that's really all the negative viewpoints of Clausen really say about him: a bunch of teams in the top ten are going to pass on him. So regardless of whether it's the right or wrong move (I believe they are justified), negative scouting opinions from professionals are getting leaked.

The end result is that this rift is being created between Bradford and Clausen, and if you actually had access to all the scouting reports between the 32 teams, I'd imagine that the mean grade would be pretty darn close.

53Fan
03-29-2010, 01:01 AM
[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;679267]Only in principle. Basically his best chance to stop a trade is to scare the crap out of a team that wants to trade for him.

Not sure what you mean Dirtbag. Does he or doesn't he?

SFREDSKIN
03-29-2010, 01:24 AM
Jamarcus Russell puts Sammy Davis jr. to shame, check the figurine of himself "Chosen" dangling from his chest on the necklace.

TNT’s Basketball Announcers Go After JaMarcus Russell’s Jewelry | Aaron Rodgers' Neighborhood (http://www.aaronrodgersneighborhood.com/2010/02/tnts-basketball-announcers-go-after-jamarcus-russells-jewelry/)

Dirtbag59
03-29-2010, 01:28 AM
Not sure what you mean Dirtbag. Does he or doesn't he?

McNabb does not have a no trade clause. If he wanted to prevent a trade he would basically have to go to the media and scare off certain teams that would try to trade for him. For example saying outright publicaly that he will not sign a contract extension with Buffalo or Oakland if he were to be traded or better yet saying that he will not play for them. Legally though he can't stop a trade on his own.

SmootSmack
03-29-2010, 07:32 AM
did anybody really think jamarcus was going to be good coming out of LSU? be honest.

WalterFootball.com: 2007 NFL Mock Draft (http://walterfootball.com/draft2007.php)

There are two things Al Davis looks for every April: athleticism and arm strength (for quarterbacks). JaMarcus Russell has both attributes, and reminds me of Daunte Culpepper circa 2004. Moreover, Russell's ability to elude defenders will come in handy once opposing pass rushers easily squeak through Oakland's pitiful offensive line.

Kalisto2010
03-29-2010, 09:07 AM
Why do the Raiders want McNabb when they have Gradkowski? Give him a chance before you trade for a vet like McNabb. Plus I think thats the last NFL team McNabb wants to play for.

Yeah, I was impressed with Gradowski last year. The kid has an absolute cannon, and he's going to be there for a while. McNabb on the other hand, will want out just like every other pro bowler who's gone to the Raiders.

Lotus
03-29-2010, 09:53 AM
WalterFootball.com: 2007 NFL Mock Draft (http://walterfootball.com/draft2007.php)

There are two things Al Davis looks for every April: athleticism and arm strength (for quarterbacks). JaMarcus Russell has both attributes, and reminds me of Daunte Culpepper circa 2004. Moreover, Russell's ability to elude defenders will come in handy once opposing pass rushers easily squeak through Oakland's pitiful offensive line.

So much for Walter Football's being the end-all of football analysis. They had the pick right (he was chosen by the Raiders) but the player analysis wrong.

53Fan
03-29-2010, 11:33 AM
McNabb does not have a no trade clause. If he wanted to prevent a trade he would basically have to go to the media and scare off certain teams that would try to trade for him. For example saying outright publicaly that he will not sign a contract extension with Buffalo or Oakland if he were to be traded or better yet saying that he will not play for them. Legally though he can't stop a trade on his own.

Thanks for clearing that up. :thumb: I was under the impression he had the right to refuse.

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