Haynesworth Missing From Redskins Offseason Workouts

Big Al speaks....

Haynesworth: 'I Need To Do This' (http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/landing_09/?blockID=202198&feedID=2992)

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 LB, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

Potentially he's the best player on the team. My eyeballs tell me that he was not at his best. I don't care how many snaps he's played. I'd rather take guys like Vince Wilfork or Jay Ratliff. Give me some lunch pale type guys, not some fat ass prima donna that has to come out of the game after two plays in a row. Or someone who rolls around on the groud like a fish out of water cause he's tired. Or someone that's going to bitch about playing in a 3-4. Lose some damn weight cause he's not as effective at 360lbs. That's obvious. The word is out on Mr. Buttersworth.

So Wilfork, Mr. It's A Slap In The Face If You Franchise Me is a lunch pail guy and not some fatass prima donna compared to Haynesworth.

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 DE, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

I agree with you and AH. He'd be better at DE than at NT.

Let him train with the guy that got him in pro bowl shape. He didn't last year and people complain he was out of shape. I imagine he'll be training with the new staff during the season. He made a big impact last year but we signed him to be Godzilla. If this guy gets him back in top shape, Godzilla's what we'll get.

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

No wonder he's always retreating to the sidelines to suck on the oxygen tank.

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

lavar is an effing moron.

Big al's explanation certainly sheds some much needed light on this situation. Sure it might be better for haynesworth to practice with the rest of the team, but it seems like he knows what he's doing and at least there's no going around people's backs or any of that CP tricky business... I, personally, am not worried about him missing these workouts now.

Potentially he's the best player on the team. My eyeballs tell me that he was not at his best. I don't care how many snaps he's played. I'd rather take guys like Vince Wilfork or Jay Ratliff. Give me some lunch pale type guys, not some fat ass prima donna that has to come out of the game after two plays in a row. Or someone who rolls around on the groud like a fish out of water cause he's tired. Or someone that's going to bitch about playing in a 3-4. Lose some damn weight cause he's not as effective at 360lbs. That's obvious. The word is out on Mr. Buttersworth.

Did he play at a different weight in Tennessee??

Damn bro you bitch more than he does, he hasn't bitched at all about the 3-4 despite what people want to believe.

That's a nice article and all, but didn't we hear the same thing in years past about Portis staying in Miami and "working out" at the U, only to see him show up doughy and out of shape? Where was Haynesworth's offseason commitment last year after all his big talk when we signed him? Now all of a sudden he's committed to having a big year? Puuuuh-lease.

The bottom part of this Jason Reid article really tells the tale:

Despite Shanahan's tough talk about players needing to show their commitment to the program if they want to be on the team, the reality is that didn't apply to Haynesworth. The Redskins will cut him a check for a guaranteed $21 million option bonus in April, and Haynesworth's 2010 and 2011 base salaries are guaranteed, too.
With the money Haynesworth is guaranteed, there's no way the Redskins would cut him for not reporting. Moreover, regardless if some in the main building believe Haynesworth has a bad attitude (and trust us, some do), the coaching staff knows they need the guy because he's one of few elite players on the roster.


So basically both parties know damn well he's not going anywhere for financial reasons. His agent probably told him to show up day 1 for PR purposes, then go do whatever the hell you want. Why anyone is giving this guy the benefit of the doubt is beyond me. From the standpoint of a Redskins fan I sure hope he's working hard on his own, but after last season I'll believe it when I see it.


I just don't like the dude.

eacxtly dead on how i feel especaially the last line, great post :goodjob:

Potentially he's the best player on the team. My eyeballs tell me that he was not at his best. I don't care how many snaps he's played. I'd rather take guys like Vince Wilfork or Jay Ratliff. Give me some lunch pale type guys, not some fat ass prima donna that has to come out of the game after two plays in a row. Or someone who rolls around on the groud like a fish out of water cause he's tired. Or someone that's going to bitch about playing in a 3-4. Lose some damn weight cause he's not as effective at 360lbs. That's obvious. The word is out on Mr. Buttersworth.

Adding Haynesworth took the team from a pathetic 24 sacks in 2008 to 40 team sacks in 2009. He made a huge difference. That sack increase can be attributed solely to Al. Without him, Orakpo would be getting the double teams instead of him and his sacks would not have been there.

As for his durability or the number of plays he's actually on the field...realize he's the only player on our D consistently being double-teamed on every play. He must be to be stopped. He's pushing against 600-700 pounds a play, not 300-350. When he's not on the field, Rak gets the double but that's only when Al is sitting. He adds the dimension to our defense that makes us dangerous...one that leaves the opposing offense with more than one player they wish they could double team, but can't.