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tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:14 PM
The problem is that people move here but will not learn the language. Yes. people are unwilling or too lazy to learn the language. I have customers that only one person in the family has learned to speak english. My mother-in-law moved from Germany and she learned to speak english because that is our language and she did not expect us to learn Germany.

it takes people time.. these people are typically supporting families, working at least one job, etc.. they don't always have time for English lessons

I seriously doubt that my ancestors (except for maybe the very affluent.. wish I had been direct lineage of them haha) knew English, aside from the British ones. It's easy for us to say learn it, but think of our level of English and how long that took to master? I'd rather someone depend someone else on English if it means that they're making an honest living. Sure there are those who do neither, but there are plenty of people that speak English that don't as well.

Daseal
03-17-2010, 12:14 PM
When I think home schooling, all I can think are those poor brainwashed Jesus Camp kids.

tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:16 PM
To tell the truth some of the best conversations I've had were with people that I couldn't understand. From the grandfather of a Macedonian girl that I worked with where we just kind of got what was going on, an Argentinean girl that rented a room for a bit where we'd sit there with a spanish-english translator book and Babelfish on the computer, etc. God that girl was amazing

saden1
03-17-2010, 12:17 PM
There actually are plenty of ESL programs right now, we all pay for them with taxes.

However, when I go to an ATM or post office, I don't think spending exorbitant money on documents and systems in 8 languages is appropriate or necessary.

Like it or not, English is the language of business and therefore success in this nation. If coming here, they need to know it and use it without the expectation of some that WE cater to THEM.


Pssst, these companies aren't required to offer Spanish language ATMs...they do it because they want to do business with Hispanics. You're free to choose your bank, go choose one that doesn't have bilingual ATMs.

tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:17 PM
When I think home schooling, all I can think are those poor brainwashed Jesus Camp kids.

hilariously tragic documentary

MTK
03-17-2010, 12:17 PM
You have no idea what it takes to learn English, no idea.

ease up, he's still learning how to spell in English

lol ;)

tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:18 PM
There actually are plenty of ESL programs right now, we all pay for them with taxes.
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If we didn't make churches tax exempt ESL wouldn't be a problem ;)

tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:19 PM
Pssst, these companies aren't required to offer Spanish language ATMs...they do it because they want to do business with Hispanics. You're free to choose your bank, go choose one that doesn't have bilingual ATMs.

It frightens me how little people try to explain things before they complain about them. Reminds me of the census letter before the form thread.

firstdown
03-17-2010, 12:23 PM
it takes people time.. these people are typically supporting families, working at least one job, etc.. they don't always have time for English lessons

I seriously doubt that my ancestors (except for maybe the very affluent.. wish I had been direct lineage of them haha) knew English, aside from the British ones. It's easy for us to say learn it, but think of our level of English and how long that took to master? I'd rather someone depend someone else on English if it means that they're making an honest living. Sure there are those who do neither, but there are plenty of people that speak English that don't as well.

Thats just an excuse. I'm not saying become an english master just learn the language so you can communicate. I had a secretary from Italy working at my office and I would always find files out of place. One day a dawned on me that she did not know the alphabet. She knew all the letters but never learned them like us and that little ABC song.

saden1
03-17-2010, 12:24 PM
ease up, he's still learning how to spell in English

lol ;)


I'm serious....learning English is an arduous 9 year process and people talk about it as if it takes minutes. Not only that but when you speak to them in broken English and you're trying they tell you learn English.

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