celts32
03-17-2010, 12:54 PM
I think that he meant the full approach so far. I mean we all have our thoughts but until the season culminates we can speculate on and judge the moves and non-moves all that we want. They've constantly said that the plan is over the coming years, maybe they'd rather be the 3rd little piggy.
I don't think any move they have made so far sheds any light at all on what thier plan is. They have signed a few backup types. Until we see trades start happening and draft picks made we do not really know what they are doing, so to label it soft is just rediculous.
Lotus
03-17-2010, 12:54 PM
That's not nearly enough to give the Rams. There is a 1200 point difference between the #1 pick and the #4 pick. 1200 points is equal to the 12th pick in the 1st round...there is not a person in the world that would give us any #1 pick for JC let alone the 12th pick.
Even if you assign JC a 2nd round value(which I doubt he's worth) you would still need to kick in at least the skins 2nd round pick.
Maybe. Or maybe the Rams take the lesser value because they get a starting QB but save the #1 pick money.
Lotus
03-17-2010, 12:55 PM
Couldn't agree more.
So what if they trade Campbell and the #4 to St Louis? You are still stuck paying out a contract for a #1 overall pick, QB none the less who gets paid more than anyone. Take a look at past #1 overall QB taken, they get TONS of money. And if a franchise if not careful, it could set thier team back as much as 10 years. Case in point:
JaMarcus Russell
Ryan Leaf (ok he was the 2nd pick, but you see what I mean)
The #1 overall pick is scary enough to choose, but on a QB it is magnified ten-fold.
By this reasoning, the Colts should never have selected or paid Peyton Manning.
tryfuhl
03-17-2010, 12:56 PM
How could you not love this?
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Pineapple Jesus , bow down to the Religion of Rex!
colt = preseason jesus
rex = preseason pharaoh
we shall see
Monkeydad
03-17-2010, 01:00 PM
By this reasoning, the Colts should never have selected or paid Peyton Manning.
Not really. (hate to defend a Dallas fan, but)
He was saying making a bad choice with a #1 overall pick on a QB can devastate a franchise for a long time, both on the field and wallet. He is right.
I do not think Bradford or any QB this year is such a sure thing that would merit taking #1 OR especially trading up to take #1. If we would do that, it needs to be a sure deal that he'll be an incredible pro QB (and durable).
Redskins_P
03-17-2010, 01:05 PM
It's March... you might want to give him a chance.
Matty, its March. We're supposed to be the champions of March!!! We're clearly taking a step back! Shanny doesn't know how we do around here....he needs to go!! ;)
I love the patience of Redskins fans. :doh:
BigHairedAristocrat
03-17-2010, 01:08 PM
colt = preseason jesus
rex = preseason pharaoh
we shall see
i dont get it. how is rex pharoah and what did any pharoahs have to do with jesus?
Lotus
03-17-2010, 01:08 PM
Not really. (hate to defend a Dallas fan, but)
He was saying making a bad choice with a #1 overall pick on a QB can devastate a franchise for a long time, both on the field and wallet. He is right.
I do not think Bradford or any QB this year is such a sure thing that would merit taking #1 OR especially trading up to take #1. If we would do that, it needs to be a sure deal that he'll be an incredible pro QB (and durable).
I don't disagree with that. But there is more to the story. The converse is that if you make a good choice with a #1 QB, you win 12+ games for the next decade (the Colts).
Many people did not think that Peyton Manning was a sure thing, either. Good thing for the Colts that they didn't listen, huh?
sandtrapjack
03-17-2010, 01:11 PM
We...agree...?
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/thud.gif
You're absolutely right.
Lol, yeah, I couldn't believe it either until I saw the breaking news that hell froze over today.:food-smil
BigHairedAristocrat
03-17-2010, 01:11 PM
I don't disagree with that. But there is more to the story. The converse is that if you make a good choice with a #1 QB, you win 12+ games for the next decade (the Colts).
Many people did not think that Peyton Manning was a sure thing, either. Good thing for the Colts that they didn't listen, huh?
If there was ever a year to take a chance on a QB, its not 2010. very weak QB class. most people would agree that Mark Sanchez and Matthew Stafford looked much much much better entering the NFL than either Bradford or Clausen do now.