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Longtimefan 03-17-2010, 05:09 PM No first rounders? LOL.
I'd be ok with drafting Bradford if we could at least have our LT position secure. At this point we haven't, and the idea of drafting Bradford with the line we have right now is scary.
And we don't even have two 1st rounders on the line we have now. The Hogs weren't all 1st rounders but they were good, that's more than we can say for the bunch we have now.
I was hinting at him being the exception. DUHHHHH. Read the whole damn post next time.
It's kind of hard when the rest of your post doesn't make sense in any sort of context.
"And Drew Brees was also a second rounder. Draft position does not tell the individual player's skill abilities, it just represents how people viewed their likeliness to fail. Good 2nd round QBs probably come around the QB draft class is deep. "
Good 2nd round QBs probably come around what? When the QB draft is deep? If the QB draft is deep? Probably? That's the opposite of having an exception.
SmootSmack 03-17-2010, 05:13 PM And we don't even have two 1st rounders on the line we have now. The Hogs weren't all 1st rounders but they were good, that's more than we can say for the bunch we have now.
Well with Levi Jones we technically would. We'd have Jones and Mike Williams
Ruhskins 03-17-2010, 05:14 PM Please name the few teams that have been in similar situation that had success by drafting a LT in the first round and a QB in the second round as you suggested.
I meant teams in similar situations as us in general. Coming from a losing season, having strong defenses, and trying to rebuild. And by similar I mean similar, not the same situation. Well, the Dolphins are just about the same situation as I'm advocating for, drafting a franchise LT, and then taking a 2nd QB (Henne).
Now Baltimore didn't draft a first round tackle until last year, but they build a good line for Flacco's first year (picking up Gaither, and I believe Birk). I don't think their line was as bad as our when they drafted Flacco.
The Jets build a hell of a line before drafting Sanchez. They have two first-rounders they picked up (Mangold, Ferguson) and acquired Faneca in free agency.
Drafting a LT in the first round is not the only way to build a line, but given the fringe talent in FA (unrestricted) it's a good way to start the rebuilding process.
wilsowilso 03-17-2010, 05:17 PM This thread is really long.
Why?
We needed a backup QB. We signed a backup that knows the system.
luke4twenty 03-17-2010, 05:17 PM I think we should take LT with the first rounder. I am not sold on Clausen or Bradford. Take a guy later on, or develop Colt, or let JC play a year under Shanny. Don't forget, maybe we can trade up and get Locker next year...lol.
Ruhskins 03-17-2010, 05:19 PM This thread is really long.
Why?
We needed a backup QB. We signed a backup that knows the system.
Because at every opportunity, we need to beat to death the argument of #4 QB vs. #4LT. This is becoming the Campbell supporters vs. the Campbell haters of the offseason.
SirClintonPortis 03-17-2010, 05:19 PM It's kind of hard when the rest of your post doesn't make sense in any sort of context.
"And Drew Brees was also a second rounder. Draft position does not tell the individual player's skill abilities, it just represents how people viewed their likeliness to fail. Good 2nd round QBs probably come around the QB draft class is deep. "
Good 2nd round QBs probably come around what? When the QB draft is deep? If the QB draft is deep? Probably? That's the opposite of having an exception.
"When" would be the right word. This is what I get for typing too fast. Not every draft is deep in QBs going in the first round.
And second rounders are obviously expected to fail on a more frequent basis than first rounders, although what actually happens depends on the individual players.
backrow 03-17-2010, 05:20 PM I am going to switch my user to Sexyrexi and try and sell it to Smoot.
Wait, I thought SS was SexyRexi!
Or are you and SS the same person? We never see you at the same time!
1. If Gator-Skins like Wuerfel are no good, why are we signing Rex?
2. If Gators are no good, Does that mean Tebow is also no good?
3. Was the failed Gator-Skins experiment simply due to Ole-Ball-Coach's poor coaching?
4. Tebow never played for OBC, did he?
I meant teams in similar situations as us in general. Coming from a losing season, having strong defenses, and trying to rebuild. And by similar I mean similar, not the same situation. Well, the Dolphins are just about the same situation as I'm advocating for, drafting a franchise LT, and then taking a 2nd QB (Henne).
Now Baltimore didn't draft a first round tackle until last year, but they build a good line for Flacco's first year (picking up Gaither, and I believe Birk). I don't think their line was as bad as our when they drafted Flacco.
The Jets build a hell of a line before drafting Sanchez. They have two first-rounders they picked up (Mangold, Ferguson) and acquired Faneca in free agency.
Drafting a LT in the first round is not the only way to build a line, but given the fringe talent in FA (unrestricted) it's a good way to start the rebuilding process.
The Dolphins weren't successful with Henne. The Ravens and Jets have all demonstrated the value of a quarterback with multiple first round quarterbacks and both having participated in trading up for a first round quarterback.
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