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Mechanix544 03-14-2010, 12:41 PM And what if I am homosexual?[/QUOTE] - 12thMan
Well, then I would think your nick is more of a running tally than a football reference?
Not that there is anything wrong with that............
SmootSmack 03-14-2010, 01:04 PM Sorry dude. I had to call you on this. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis the 4th and 5th best RB of all time. Tell Ewan Macgregor to take the needle out of your arm, and no, babies cannot crawl upside down on ceilings.
Uhhhhhhhh......Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton, Campbell, Brown, marcus Allen, Craig, Peterson, Tomlinson, OJ, Gale Sayers, Bo Jackson.......All of these guys I am sorry are better RB's than the two u mentioned. I know this thread isnt a who is the best of all time thread, but I had to make a rebuttle post when I saw that hazardous waste on the board.
Seriously, Martin and Bettis. I dont think Ive laughed so hard in my life.
Bettis was a very good back, but not even top 12 all time.
In terms of career rushing yards, he's right. Curtis Martin is 4th all-time, and Jerome Bettis is 5th all-time.
celts32 03-14-2010, 01:35 PM Martin and Bettis are 4th and 5th all time respectively. I could see you saying that they aren't top 5 all time but how do you leave them out of the top 10?
Don't group me as a "hater", I have been for the LJ signing as soon as it happened. You can disagree, with it but the statistics are pretty clear cut for 30 year old rushers.
I know that there are plenty of 30 year old receivers who have been productive. You missed my point. You gave 6 examples of runningbacks who had a good season at 30 or older. One is the all time leading rusher in the league and two of the others are in the top 5 of ALL TIME.
IMO, I think that LJ will be a good back for us. I am not sure he will ever go into a season as our starter.
I would not put Martin or Bettis in an all time top 10 either. Football is a sport where the record book is not really the final say on who was best. For instance i think most people would agree that Emmit Smith was not the best RB of all time even though he holds the record. I have easily seen more then 10 RB's in my lifetime that I think are better then Martin & Bettis. They were durable and played well for a long time but many other RB's were better IMO.
cdskins26 03-14-2010, 01:39 PM We could bring in Sean Alexander (again) and complete the jeopardy category: Running Backs Who Were Good in 2006. I still think we should take Clausen/Bradford first if they are available, take all O-Linemen the rest of the way unless a really good RB/CB falls to us and assess those problems next year. This is the kind of deal your FO makes when you draft a rookie to develop at the spot, or a proven running back could be the last piece to becoming a contender. This is a rebuilding year and a signing like this is not necessary.
SmootSmack 03-14-2010, 01:46 PM I would not put Martin or Bettis in an all time top 10 either. Football is a sport where the record book is not really the final say on who was best. For instance i think most people would agree that Emmit Smith was not the best RB of all time even though he holds the record. I have easily seen more then 10 RB's in my lifetime that I think are better then Martin & Bettis. They were durable and played well for a long time but many other RB's were better IMO.
But again, he was right in terms of them statistically being 4th and 5th best all time. And the fact that they were able to play consistently well for so long shouldn't be dismissed.
Pocket$ $traight 03-14-2010, 01:48 PM i really don't like this move. I'd prefer to go younger in the draft. I'm concerned Shanahan is remember LJ from when he was ripping up the AFC West 4 years ago, and letting that cloud his evaluation of who he is today.
How does signing Johnson prevent us from drafting a runningback? LJ is a bridge from Portis to our next long term runningback (s).
So you think Mike and Bruce were watching film from Larry's 1700 yard seasons instead of Johnson's film from the last two years? Last year Johnson did nothing in KC. He went to Cincy and averaged 4.4 a carry and even broke the c-note once.
That is the problem around here. We are so used to complete f-ing imbeciles like Vinny and Zorn that we expect dysfunction.
Pocket$ $traight 03-14-2010, 02:02 PM Sorry dude. I had to call you on this. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis the 4th and 5th best RB of all time. Tell Ewan Macgregor to take the needle out of your arm, and no, babies cannot crawl upside down on ceilings.
Uhhhhhhhh......Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton, Campbell, Brown, marcus Allen, Craig, Peterson, Tomlinson, OJ, Gale Sayers, Bo Jackson.......All of these guys I am sorry are better RB's than the two u mentioned. I know this thread isnt a who is the best of all time thread, but I had to make a rebuttle post when I saw that hazardous waste on the board.
Seriously, Martin and Bettis. I dont think Ive laughed so hard in my life.
Bettis was a very good back, but not even top 12 all time.
When I said they were 4th and 5th all time it was referring to their rushing numbers. It is my fault for assuming that you could figure that out, I will never make that mistake again.
You are welcome for the laugh. Since I laugh that hard every time you post something, I owed you at least one.
Now, please continue with the stream of consciousness of a 6th grade football fan.
CRedskinsRule 03-14-2010, 02:04 PM How does signing Johnson prevent us from drafting a runningback? LJ is a bridge from Portis to our next long term runningback (s).
So you think Mike and Bruce were watching film from Larry's 1700 yard seasons instead of Johnson's film from the last two years? Last year Johnson did nothing in KC. He went to Cincy and averaged 4.4 a carry and even broke the c-note once.
That is the problem around here. We are so used to complete f-ing imbeciles like Vinny and Zorn that we expect dysfunction.
I absoulutely agree.
Lotus 03-14-2010, 04:08 PM By midseason Montario Hardesty will start for us, anyway. :)
12thMan 03-14-2010, 04:08 PM Watching LJ play against the Ravens on NFLN.
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