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Mechanix544 03-11-2010, 03:21 PM This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.
This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.
I guess pickings really are slim when people are getting their panties in a bunch over a move like this. Can't wait for when we make a real news worthy move.
Trample the Elderly 03-11-2010, 03:54 PM Davis has terrible blocking numbers--from both me and other sources--last year, but he's still a lot better at it that Yoder is.
Cooley is all over the place from year to year. Last year he was awful. He was awful when he came in to the league. In 2007 and 2008 he was one of the better blocking TEs in the league.
I don't know what #s you're talking about? This new guy isn't better than Yoder IMO.
CRedskinsRule 03-11-2010, 03:56 PM This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.
This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.
You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:
1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.
2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links
3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.
4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.
That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)
CultBrennan59 03-11-2010, 03:57 PM TE's one of our strengths so I don't really care about this guy, he won't be playing that much anyway
Redskins_P 03-11-2010, 03:59 PM You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:
1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.
2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links
3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.
4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.
That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)
I agree 100%!!
Trample the Elderly 03-11-2010, 04:38 PM You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:
1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.
2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links
3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.
4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.
That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)
Fuck yeah! That's what I'm talking about!
tryfuhl 03-11-2010, 04:41 PM I think this move may be an expression of Mike Shanahan's philosophy of having competition at every position. It looks like he's split the TE's into two positions and Ryan is apparently Yoder's competition at Blocking TE. Shanahan said that he likes to have a Blocking TE and a Receiving TE.I'm not sure we're bringing Yoder back.
tryfuhl 03-11-2010, 04:42 PM Cooley and Davis are both pass-catching tight ends. Ryan is a blocking tight end. Signing Ryan has nothing to do with Cooley or Davis.
Unless we go after another TE as well...
Too early to say it's one way or another
tryfuhl 03-11-2010, 04:46 PM This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.
This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.
You could've said the same thing when we brought in Yoder.
Relax people.
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