Big Ben accused of sexual assault

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BigHairedAristocrat
03-10-2010, 04:01 PM
I dont want anyone to take this personally, but it seems like some people are almost making excuses for Rothlesberger or minimizing certain unconsented acts as if they would be "no big deal" even if they did happen. If Rothlesberger engaged in any sort of sexual assault, however minor, its no trivial matter. He deserves what he's getting and it better include some sort of judicial punishment and suspension from the league and/or the team. In the "best-case scenario" for him -everything was consensual and hes now being victimized by someone wanting to get a big payday - he's still an idiot, a pervert, and someone who deserves what he's getting right now. He's a liability to reputation of the NFL.

Pocket$ $traight
03-10-2010, 04:03 PM
Well it's questionable if Roeth has common sense


I think it is safe to say that he is a complete idiot blessed with the skills to be an elite athlete.

What a clown.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-10-2010, 04:04 PM
I think it is safe to say that he is a complete idiot blessed with the skills to be an elite athlete.

What a clown.

At the very minimum.

Pocket$ $traight
03-10-2010, 04:08 PM
I dont want anyone to take this personally, but it seems like some people are almost making excuses for Rothlesberger or minimizing certain unconsented acts as if they would be "no big deal" even if they did happen. If Rothlesberger engaged in any sort of sexual assault, however minor, its no trivial matter. He deserves what he's getting and it better include some sort of judicial punishment and suspension from the league and/or the team. In the "best-case scenario" for him -everything was consensual and hes now being victimized by someone wanting to get a big payday - he's still an idiot, a pervert, and someone who deserves what he's getting right now. He's a liability to reputation of the NFL.


My gut feeling is that he did something wrong in this case. People who are bar hopping between 5 different locations aren't going to be doing anything intelligent or making any good decisions.

tryfuhl
03-10-2010, 05:21 PM
i agree that we can't make a definitive judgement now, but the fact that rothlesberger is involved in some sort of incident every year is enough to question his judgement. he shouldnt be putting himself in these situations to begin with. his behavior is clearly reckless if nothing else.

my overall point is that presuming Rothlesberger is innocent of sexual assualt means we are assuming his accuser is guilty of making the whole thing up. it just concerns me that so many people are quick to assume the later is true. i think there are far more me who get away with sexual assault because the victims don't speak up than there are women who falsely accuse men of rape to get money.

a lot don't get reported.. and a lot get reported falsely.. it's a vicious thing

Dirtbag59
03-10-2010, 08:02 PM
she said she was assaulted, not raped. big difference. i'm not a lawyer but what does that mean? it could mean he grabbed her ass, or grabbed her tits when she wasn't expecting it. to me this sounds like some girl crying wolf. how do you assault someone in a club when people are walking in and out of a bathroom? it just doesn't make any sense.

Rape is a type of sexual assault. Sexual assault is the broad category. I think you're referring to sexual misconduct which doesn't really seem to be the case here.

Mechanix544
03-10-2010, 09:53 PM
i agree that we can't make a definitive judgement now, but the fact that rothlesberger is involved in some sort of incident every year is enough to question his judgement. he shouldnt be putting himself in these situations to begin with. his behavior is clearly reckless if nothing else.

my overall point is that presuming Rothlesberger is innocent of sexual assualt means we are assuming his accuser is guilty of making the whole thing up. it just concerns me that so many people are quick to assume the later is true. i think there are far more me who get away with sexual assault because the victims don't speak up than there are women who falsely accuse men of rape to get money.

Ok, #1 - absolutely no stone hard facts have come out about this case yet, ITS NOT EVEN A CASE YET, LOL, no charges have even been filed yet, so, quit slammin and crucifying this guy for christs sake...
#2 bad judgement?? The frickin guy lives out in the mmiddle of bumflip egypt in georgia, and I know, milledgeville is right down the road from me, and what is bad about his judgement? Being a 28 year old that likes to go to clubs, show off, spend money and fraternize with women??? yeah, horrible judgement there.
#3 - "i think there are far more me who get away with sexual assault because the victims don't speak up than there are women who falsely accuse men of rape" Oh really? In Ben Rothlisbergers case, the exact opposite is true. He had a cuckoo bitch trying to get money from him last year. The DA and police, after questioning the woman, and then some of her friends, said that there was no way they would even think of charging him with anything. The girls best friend even said to authorities that the accuser said, "I gonna get me some Rothlisberger." and she even drove to Pittsburgh with her friend to see if they could track him down and party with him, all AFTER the alleged event. Hardly a girl with her emotions totally distraught from being violated and raped. more like a girl thats pissed that he banged her and jetted, cause he found out first hand the bitch was flippin nuts.

You all should just chill, and quit fricking crucifying this guy when absolutely NO EVIDENCE, NO UPDATES, NOTHING has officially come out from the Police dept. or the DA. All of this is just speculation, and all this, "well I saw some pictures, A witness said this bull shit.......SPECULATION. You know what is accurate about all of this stuff thats been said here on these boards????

NOTHING

Just wait for the truth to come out, damn, the guy hasnt even been charged with anything. He has NEVER ONCE, NEVER been charged with anything short of a traffic ticket in HIS ENTIRE LIFE. All these people speculating about this, saying he is a horrible person, he should be suspended shit, surprises the hell out of me. Especially on this forum. Just quit jumping the gun, and give the guy his due process. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-10-2010, 10:06 PM
im pretty sure that kind of language isnt tolerated here. i suggest you edit your post

Mechanix544
03-10-2010, 10:08 PM
Good lookin out

BigHairedAristocrat
03-10-2010, 10:35 PM
i understand, we can all be very passionate about our opinions.

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