How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

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over the mountain
03-03-2010, 03:07 PM
the next tom brady, peyton manning or drew brees may be available.

Ruhskins
03-03-2010, 03:08 PM
the next tom brady, peyton manning or drew brees may be available.

or the next Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch. However, my point is that Bradford or Clausen are not going to make our o-line look good immediately.

Dirtbag59
03-03-2010, 03:08 PM
the next tom brady, peyton manning or drew brees may be available.

This. We will be extremely lucky if we can pick Bradford at 4 without trading any picks.

SBXVII
03-03-2010, 03:10 PM
:soapbox:

After having the piece of shit line we had in '09 and '08, I don't want to depend on JUST this to build the offensive line. Our franchise tackle (whom we picked up in the first round) is retiring, Randy Thomas should retire, Heyer is serviceable (although some people have a more negative opinion about him), and honestly, I don't know what to make of Rabach. The team seems to be ok with him, but I'm not sold on him.

Picking up a LT in the top 10 of the draft is not throwing a pick away. Many football pundits typically put QB and LT as 1a and 1b in the positions that a team should pick in the top 10/top 5. I know all won't be lost if we pick up a QB at #4, but also all won't be lost if we pick up a franchise tackle at #4 as well.

I know that a team should consider a QB if there's a special talent and having the opportunity to take a franchise QB. But to me, it is not like Jason Campbell was putting up JaMarcus Russell's numbers last season (and NO, I'm not making an argument for Campbell so calm down JC haters). However, our offensive line was the JaMarcus Russell of offensive lines.

I look at it this way.... Honestly Samuels is retiring, R.Thomas should be retiring (due to injury), Rabach is not a Center I want to rely on this coming year since he has not done very well since he's been here. He gets bowled over all the time. So we truly need a whole new OL. Keep in mind we can't do it all in one year. So some players will have to be FA and some will have to be mid to late rounders or settle with what we already have. If we are settling with Rabach this coming year, and hopefully the young guys we picked up the last two years look good as Guards then we basically need a LT and RT. If we can pick up just one in FA we can pick up the other in the draft. Then bring in a whole mess of late round or UFA OL.

SBXVII
03-03-2010, 03:12 PM
This. We will be extremely lucky if we can pick Bradford at 4 without trading any picks.

Not anymore...:) now PFT is reporting that if the draft was tomorrow the Rams would pick McCoy.

Report: Rams would take McCoy, if draft were held now | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/report-rams-would-take-mccoy-if-draft-were-held-now/)

Dirtbag59
03-03-2010, 03:13 PM
I look at it this way.... Honestly Samuels is retiring, R.Thomas should be retiring (due to injury), Rabach is not a Center I want to rely on this coming year since he has not done very well since he's been here. He gets bowled over all the time. So we truly need a whole new OL.

LEAVE RABACH ALONE!!!!!!!!!

I also want to take this time though to point out that if you don't like the idea of our lineman getting "bowled" over then prepare to hate most of our line. Shanahan loves the quick athletic types, but they work much better in the zone blocking scheme. Rabach did admirable in a power blocking scheme now he's going to a scheme thats tailor made for him. Prepare to love Rabach again like it's 2005.

Not anymore...:) now PFT is reporting that if the draft was tomorrow the Rams would pick McCoy.

Report: Rams would take McCoy, if draft were held now | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/report-rams-would-take-mccoy-if-draft-were-held-now/)

Wait doesn't that make us lucky. Oh well guess I'll have to read the article.

Ruhskins
03-03-2010, 03:15 PM
I look at it this way.... Honestly Samuels is retiring, R.Thomas should be retiring (due to injury), Rabach is not a Center I want to rely on this coming year since he has not done very well since he's been here. He gets bowled over all the time. So we truly need a whole new OL. Keep in mind we can't do it all in one year. So some players will have to be FA and some will have to be mid to late rounders or settle with what we already have. If we are settling with Rabach this coming year, and hopefully the young guys we picked up the last two years look good as Guards then we basically need a LT and RT. If we can pick up just one in FA we can pick up the other in the draft. Then bring in a whole mess of late round or UFA OL.

I'm just not sold in the talent at UFA at the tackle position. I mean, you can bring Tony Pashos, but I feel that we'd be patching up an important line position with an old guy. Once again, I get the whole "franchise QB" argument, I'm just not sold on this being a greater need than getting a franchise tackle.

over the mountain
03-03-2010, 03:15 PM
or the next Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch. However, my point is that Bradford or Clausen are not going to make our o-line look good immediately.

i hear ya buddy but nobody is going to immediatley make our o line look good. not JC, not bradford, not clausen, not okung.

have we reached a deal with rabach? if not, he hits the FA wire in about 34 hours.

Dirtbag59
03-03-2010, 03:19 PM
I'm just not sold in the talent at UFA at the tackle position. I mean, you can bring Tony Pashos, but I feel that we'd be patching up an important line position with an old guy. Once again, I get the whole "franchise QB" argument, I'm just not sold on this being a greater need than getting a franchise tackle.

If you're just looking at 2010 then a franchise tackle makes much more sense then a potential franchise QB. However when you look at 2010 onward the franchise QB makes so much sense it's not even funny. You think the Falcons and Thomas Dimitroff are loosing any sleep over the fact that they selected Ryan over Dorsey with their O-Line was in shambles?

Ruhskins
03-03-2010, 03:24 PM
If you're just looking at 2010 then a franchise tackle makes much more sense then a potential franchise QB. However when you look at 2010 onward the franchise QB makes so much sense it's not even funny. You think the Falcons and Thomas Dimitroff are loosing any sleep over the fact that they selected Ryan over Dorsey when their O-Line was in shambles?

The Falcons also picked up Sam Baker later in the first round during that draft, he's now their starting Left Tackle with the pick that we traded to get Kelly, Thomas, and Davis.

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