johno
03-17-2010, 11:25 AM
Even if Okung is not a fit for the system or blocking scheme Shanahan is trying to implement?
yes. hes top 5 talent, and the best player available at our position of greatest need. its not like we are out getting guys that fit into the ZBS anyway.
12thMan
03-17-2010, 04:05 PM
LOl, agreed, He is just not a top ten pick. It would be a severe reach at #4...Colt in the second round would be a better value and I think he will be there. Im hoping either Bradford or Okung at this point.
Umm....my thinking has evolved about who is deemed to be a good value at which slot and who's not. Bottom line is you don't know until you know. I mean, Clausen at #1 might make sense for some teams. You know? If you like him, then you like him. I think whether he goes at #1 or #10 is completely overstated and irrelevant when the team is on the clock. If a GM believes that this guy can help you win, and this is your only shot to take him, then it doesn't 'mount to a hill of beans whether he drafts him at #1 or a #10 pick. It makes for good draft day discussion and fodder, but the game is ultimately won on the field. And I don't think there's a ton of space in terms of talent and potential between, say, the top ten picks in the NFL Draft. For all we know, C.J. Spiller could be the #1 pick for a team that places that kind of value on him.
That said, I'm starting to lean towards Clausen over Bradford. Here's why; Clausen has proved, undeniably, that he's the toughest QB in this draft. I watched this guy limp (with that bum toe/foot injury) through at least three games and managed somehow to keep an average Notre Dame team competitive. Also, Bradford's shoulder injury scares the hell out of me. Those things never really heal and the hits he's about to take in the NFL will further take its toll over time. That's just my opinion, of course, but I'm interested to see how he responds to the speed of the game at this level.
Slingin Sammy 33
03-17-2010, 05:24 PM
That said, I'm starting to lean towards Clausen over Bradford. Here's why; Clausen has proved, undeniably, that he's the toughest QB in this draft. I watched this guy limp (with that bum toe/foot injury) through at least three games and managed somehow to keep an average Notre Dame team competitive.I like how you think :D
Son Of Man
03-17-2010, 05:34 PM
I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?
Slingin Sammy 33
03-17-2010, 05:50 PM
I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?Carrying a team with average, at best, talent on his back with an injured foot for half the season sure doesn't seem to me like questionable leadership skills/intangibles.
12thMan
03-17-2010, 06:00 PM
I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?
I don't think it's Clausen's intangibles that anyone questions. He's definitely displayed leadership qualities over and over again.
SirClintonPortis
03-17-2010, 06:22 PM
So I guess there will be no Jay Cutler-esque secrecy this draft unless it's Bradford now that they've talked with Clausen and Colt McCoy.
Defensewins
03-17-2010, 07:10 PM
Even if Okung is not a fit for the system or blocking scheme Shanahan is trying to implement?
You keep saying this, but it means nothing. You just want Clausen.
Given Okung's talent, skill and athletic ability, I think he can learn to play any scheme.
12thMan
03-17-2010, 07:22 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Maryland's OT come here.
Dirtbag59
03-17-2010, 07:27 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Maryland's OT come here.
Yeah, I'd love to get Jared Gaither for a second as well.