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Lotus 03-07-2010, 04:26 PM I really think the Giants are going to suck this year. Just wanted to put my opinion out there.
I second that for the reasons you mention elsewhere.
Changing the subject from necessary and enjoyable critiques of the Giants, Pashos signed with the Browns:
Source: Tony Pashos strikes three-year, $10.3 million deal with Browns - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-source_tony_pashos_strikes_threeyear_103_million_d eal_with_browns_html-201037&prov=nfp&type=lgns)
Losing Pashos for $3.5m a year is the first Shanahanian move that I don't like.
ChickenMonkey 03-07-2010, 04:35 PM Changing the subject from necessary and enjoyable critiques of the Giants, Pashos signed with the Browns:
Source: Tony Pashos strikes three-year, $10.3 million deal with Browns - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-source_tony_pashos_strikes_threeyear_103_million_d eal_with_browns_html-201037&prov=nfp&type=lgns)
Losing Pashos for $3.5m a year is the first Shanahanian move that I don't like.[/QUOTE]
Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process
12thMan 03-07-2010, 04:51 PM Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process[/QUOTE]
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Piss poor, really? Slow down, we haven't gotten to draft day yet.
You have to figure Casey Rabach, D.Dockery, and maybe Levi Jones will be three of your five starters. Keep in mind we signed Levi Jones late October, but now we'll have him for a full training camp. So I expect him to be in better shape and, quite frankly, a better offensive tackle. The other two spots will probably go to a drafted rookie (hopefully a really good one), Chad Rinehart and/or Artis Hicks, and maybe another FA between now and the start of the season.
All I'm saying is it's still very early and we can't grab every Tom, Dick, and Harry FA out there just because they're available.
SBXVII 03-07-2010, 04:58 PM No I don't...well, you're right I do. But I really, really do this time. Lots of questions on defense.
I think one has to face the inevitable. Teams go through cycles. The Skins cycle was in the 80's, Dallas was in the 90's, Eagles tried to claim the 2000 but failed. As it turned out it was the Giants. So the Giants had a nice 10yr run and they are on the decline. Dallas stumbled and came back last year but I still wouldn't consider them the power house yet. The Eagles had a nice few yrs leading up to their SB year but I feel they have been on the decline due to the cycle. Players being picked up by other teams and Reids refusing to believe McNabb is washed up.
I'm not saying all this to start with the whole ....the Skins will be in the SB next year or anything. I see us as finally having realized what we were doing was not working after 20 long years and finally see us in rebuild mode. Maybe in 3-5 yrs we will be in the SB but not until we get younger, quicker, and healthier.
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Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process
Piss poor, really? Slow down, we haven't gotten to draft day yet.
You have to figure Casey Rabach, D.Dockery, and maybe Levi Jones will be three of your five starters. Keep in mind we signed Levi Jones late October, but now we'll have him for a full training camp. So I expect him to be in better shape and, quite frankly, a better offensive tackle. The other two spots will probably go to a drafted rookie (hopefully a really good one), Chad Rinehart and/or Artis Hicks, and maybe another FA between now and the start of the season.
All I'm saying is it's still very early and we can't grab every Tom, Dick, and Harry FA out there just because they're available.[/QUOTE]
OMG.
#1- How do you know there is not a plan?
#2- How do you know they are not executing the plan?
#3- Why do we fans always believe we should be in the know on the plans?
If we knew the plans so would all the other teams and they would game plan around that. Possibly screwing us in the process.
Then there's the fact that I keep calling it rebuild mode. Yeah I know Allen said he didn't like the word or something but by avoiding the term people get the false sense of security plus with his "we are not that bad of a team" speach people are right back in the "we are just one player or 3 away from being contenders" mode. Your upset that they didn't come out ball to the walls signing people. I'm dissapointed also but seeing that we didn't just throw money away to try to solve a problem with an aged vet makes be happy. Now ask me how we are going to fill the position? I have no Fing clue. :) But you can't tell me we hired two inept front office/HCing people who don't know what they are doing and they wouldn't be doing it with out a plan.
SBXVII 03-07-2010, 05:17 PM Sorry 12th. Maybe I quoted the wrong person. It looked like you were writing it. Then after I posted my comment quoting what I thought was yours I see that you were refering to someone elses comments. I think.
12thMan 03-07-2010, 05:18 PM Piss poor, really? Slow down, we haven't gotten to draft day yet.
You have to figure Casey Rabach, D.Dockery, and maybe Levi Jones will be three of your five starters. Keep in mind we signed Levi Jones late October, but now we'll have him for a full training camp. So I expect him to be in better shape and, quite frankly, a better offensive tackle. The other two spots will probably go to a drafted rookie (hopefully a really good one), Chad Rinehart and/or Artis Hicks, and maybe another FA between now and the start of the season.
All I'm saying is it's still very early and we can't grab every Tom, Dick, and Harry FA out there just because they're available.
OMG.
#1- How do you know there is not a plan?
#2- How do you know they are not executing the plan?
#3- Why do we fans always believe we should be in the know on the plans?
If we knew the plans so would all the other teams and they would game plan around that. Possibly screwing us in the process.
Then there's the fact that I keep calling it rebuild mode. Yeah I know Allen said he didn't like the word or something but by avoiding the term people get the false sense of security plus with his "we are not that bad of a team" speach people are right back in the "we are just one player or 3 away from being contenders" mode. Your upset that they didn't come out ball to the walls signing people. I'm dissapointed also but seeing that we didn't just throw money away to try to solve a problem with an aged vet makes be happy. Now ask me how we are going to fill the position? I have no Fing clue. :) But you can't tell me we hired two inept front office/HCing people who don't know what they are doing and they wouldn't be doing it with out a plan.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how or why my name is being quoted here when I responding to someone else. But I think you and I are on the same page.
SBXVII 03-07-2010, 05:26 PM Your's did the same thing mine did when I tried to quote what I thought was your statement. The site blended my quote with your statement. LOL.
diehard 03-07-2010, 05:30 PM I'm really nervous about the holes we have on the team right now. There's not a lot of quality UFAs and the team cannot afford to lose draft picks. Tendering Rodgers and McIntosh could bring interest.
Bushead 03-07-2010, 05:33 PM It's going to have to be a slow rebuilding process because this team needs lots of pieces. As we have seen, just going out and picking 3 or 4 people who are the best of just one free agent year is not the way to build prolonged success.
Many of the free agents who were out there were around the 30 years old. So they can play at a high level for another 3-4 years? The skins do just need to take it slow and draft some lineman and pick and choose where in free agency to do something.
Even if they went out and got every offensive lineman available, our center is still suspect, our RG is suspect, our QB is a question mark, we don't have much at RB or FB, we have unproven WR with a declining Moss, and for defense a poor secondary.
It's going to take a while guys.
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