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tryfuhl 03-06-2010, 10:20 PM I'm kind of surprised RB Mike Bell hasn't been mentioned at all.
Wasn't he a Shanahan pick? And he ran kind of well for the Saints this season... I think I'd rather him over a 30-yr old back like Tomilinson, Parker, etc. ... he'd be rather cheap and already know the system.
But again... Shanny must not have been to impressed with him Denver... haven't heard of any interest from the Skins.
He's young but hasn't done a hell of a lot. Might be worth looking though, he looked probably the best since his rookie year last year. If we don't get Parker he'd be a logical choice to consider.
tryfuhl 03-06-2010, 10:21 PM we were just trying to beat the backside end to the point of attack.
And it never worked. But damned if we weren't going to keep trying.
haha yeah I remember an announcer saying something to the same effect, can't remember which game
Swarley 03-06-2010, 10:28 PM Pashos's agent says no deal is in place
There were reports Saturday evening the Redskins agreed to terms with both Artis Hicks and Tony Pashos, which still could happen. But as of now, Hicks is the only new offensive lineman headed to Ashburn.
"It's not true. It's not true," Pashos's agent, Rick Smith, said before I could ask a question after contacting him on his cell phone. "He left the building. He's headed to Cleveland right now."
Okay. But is Pashos close to signing with the Redskins? "We're nowhere near close," Smith continued. "Like I said, he's headed to Cleveland."
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12thMan 03-06-2010, 10:37 PM I think when you look at the Redskins off season on a whole, up to this point, there's no question in my mind that they've positioned themselves better than any team in the NFL. They've restructured their front office in a significant way, which has injected a sense of steadiness and focus into the atmosphere and, probably just as important, trimmed some much need fat from the roster. All of this before draft day, which hopefully will yield a starter or two.
In terms of the non-moves, well, it's easy to look at the coulda, shoulda, woulda's. Every team would love to have a Julius Peppers. But the truth is Peppers isn't going to turn the Chicago Bears into an instant playoff contender, and it's going to take him time to acclimate to a new system. That's true whether it's in Chicago or in D.C. Oh, and Andre Carter ain't too shabby himself. The 'Skins get to keep a steady Carter, who on paper, was just as productive as Julius Peppers last season for a third of the price. It's also worth noting that Andre Carter is only 8 months older than Peppers.
I don't think the Redskins are the team to beat, maybe not even the best team in the NFC East. But I'm fairly certain this team has Wild Card potential. The Cards have unloaded and lost a lot of key players. I doubt if the Vikings will have another run like they did last year. No Chester Taylor, an Adrian Peterson, who struggled down the stretch last season, will also be a year older. As far the NFC East goes, we all know there's usually not much separating the top four teams in the division. It comes down to solid coaching down the stretch and catching some breaks on the injury front.
I'm pretty darn exciting about 2010! Hail!
Pocket$ $traight 03-06-2010, 10:40 PM [QUOTE=Pocket$ $traight;670335]I agree. We have plenty of time and every year a big name or two gets let go during the offseason.
Btw...IMO...
- Dansby was overpaid.
- Rolle was paid a lot more than we were willing to spend on a safety
- Peppers was definitely overpaid
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LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.
When you guys can run a short yardage play at him, you can say something. Enjoy your 37 million dollar failure of a corner turned safety.
tootergray34 03-06-2010, 10:40 PM we need to make a run for Pashos...bad...and we need to do it soon...
tryfuhl 03-06-2010, 10:41 PM How has someone not done a Skins version?
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SBXVII 03-06-2010, 10:49 PM Tony Pashos is a fringe starting RT, Hicks is a fringe NFL player.
Pashos is a good signing if we draft a LT early, and fail to address the line again until late in the draft, we'll be alright with him and Heyer on the right side.
In general, no idea what the line rebuilding plan is. We're not targeting guys with zone blocking experience, and we've brought in a lot of guys. I'm sure Shanahan has a plan, I just hope it's better than, "sign some guys, get lucky".
Hicks has spent his whole career playing for Reid/Childress, and their zone blocking schemes more closely resemble Zorn's than Shanahan's. Not that it's a huge difference.
I don't mean to be a dick but I thought we only brought in 3 OL so far? Clifton was a zone blocking lineman. Pashos has worked with Foerster the OL coach while in San Fran. Foerster teaches zone blocking. Hicks as you have said is a zone blocker even though it might not be Shanahan's style he understands zone blocking.
Plus Pashos can play tackle and Hicks is a OG/LT. For whatever reason I think Pashos was a LT also so we have some options now. The only people who are not zone blockers are the LB Foote we are looking to talk to and Willie Parker. So basically we are bringing in zone blocking OL. At a reasonable price I might add vs. throwing money away like we have for the whole time Snyder has owned the team.
GTripp0012 03-06-2010, 10:59 PM I don't mean to be a dick but I thought we only brought in 3 OL so far? Clifton was a zone blocking lineman. Pashos has worked with Foerster the OL coach while in San Fran. Foerster teaches zone blocking. Hicks as you have said is a zone blocker even though it might not be Shanahan's style he understands zone blocking.
Plus Pashos can play tackle and Hicks is a OG/LT. For whatever reason I think Pashos was a LT also so we have some options now. The only people who are not zone blockers are the LB Foote we are looking to talk to and Willie Parker. So basically we are bringing in zone blocking OL. At a reasonable price I might add vs. throwing money away like we have for the whole time Snyder has owned the team.I'm sure that every lineman has some sort of exposure to the ZBS, but I thought/was delusional in thinking that we would bring in a bunch of underpublicized lineman who specialize in what we're going to do for the next few years. So far, we've re-signed Rabach and Mike Williams, who don't do any of that. Clifton is 34.
It's possible we're already doing that and I'm just oblivious, but I'm just seeing guys who have struggled to hold on to a starting job the last few years traipsing through here, and I'm skeptical. That's all.
When you see "3-year deal", and it being offered to a backup-quality lineman, you do have to wonder what the greater plan is. Usually with bargain-basement types, shorter contracts are in vogue.
SBXVII 03-06-2010, 11:07 PM I'm sure that every lineman has some sort of exposure to the ZBS, but I thought/was delusional in thinking that we would bring in a bunch of underpublicized lineman who specialize in what we're going to do for the next few years. So far, we've re-signed Rabach and Mike Williams, who don't do any of that. Clifton is 34.
It's possible we're already doing that and I'm just oblivious, but I'm just seeing guys who have struggled to hold on to a starting job the last few years traipsing through here, and I'm skeptical. That's all.
When you see "3-year deal", and it being offered to a backup-quality lineman, you do have to wonder what the greater plan is. Usually with bargain-basement types, shorter contracts are in vogue.
Yes you have to wonder but one player who is a back up in one system might actually do rather well in another scheme. If Shanahan can get mid to late rounders to be the best OL in the NFL as he has with Denver then I presume he will do just as well with players who are from other teams but the same catagory.
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