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over the mountain 03-08-2010, 12:27 PM im not upset with the way things are going. honestly, outside of dansby and peppers, there wasnt great talent.
i cannot find myself to be upset that we didnt sign pashos, who couldnt play his way into a starting job on the 49ers O line.
i was warming up to the dansby idea with his experience as an inside 3-4 LB but foote, if signed, brings that same experience.
i thought chad clifton was the best OT in FA, but i wouldnt give him what the packers did. While i think there is a drop in talent from clifotn to the next guy, that drop off is really marginal.
outside of peppers, there wasnt a real impact player available in FA imo.
dunta robinson? know his name and hype, but i havent really watched him play to make an opinion of him.
would signing pashos really help anything? idk, he signed for a fairly cheap deal but who here can honestly say you watched enough film of him to know if he could even start for our O line and be an upgrade?
there just is not alot of talent in FA this year with the RFA tenders.
Pocket$ $traight 03-08-2010, 12:30 PM You can't help but think that had the Skins signed Pashos, Clifton, Dansby, etc. we would be reading an article from this guy saying here we go with the same old free spending Redskins.
I agree. They would have had to overpay for Clifton. Dansby's contract is ridiculous IMO. Because Parcells signed him, "He must be worth it". I think they could have signed Pashos but that Bruce and Shanny decided he wasn't worth those dollars. So be it, there will be more tackles available later.
The Bears are Schefter's running punchline. That is who we should emulate? Really?
johno 03-08-2010, 12:33 PM we'd only be back where we were today in 2012 if we traded 2010 and 2011 draft picks for veterans or the new CBA has a grandfather rule that penalizes teams who spent big in the uncapped year by taking draft picks away from them. bringing in free agent veterans in an uncapped year doesn't hurt the team if the players fit the system.
i was alluding to the fact that all of those free agents were older players that would be expensive.
Trample the Elderly 03-08-2010, 12:41 PM im not upset with the way things are going. honestly, outside of dansby and peppers, there wasnt great talent.
i cannot find myself to be upset that we didnt sign pashos, who couldnt play his way into a starting job on the 49ers O line.
i was warming up to the dansby idea with his experience as an inside 3-4 LB but foote, if signed, brings that same experience.
i thought chad clifton was the best OT in FA, but i wouldnt give him what the packers did. While i think there is a drop in talent from clifotn to the next guy, that drop off is really marginal.
outside of peppers, there wasnt a real impact player available in FA imo.
dunta robinson? know his name and hype, but i havent really watched him play to make an opinion of him.
would signing pashos really help anything? idk, he signed for a fairly cheap deal but who here can honestly say you watched enough film of him to know if he could even start for our O line and be an upgrade?
there just is not alot of talent in FA this year with the RFA tenders.
No way. There's talent, just not a lot of big name talent like we're used to. That guard we got is talented. So is the dude from Dallas that we're trying to get. I like this better than what we've been used to.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-08-2010, 12:46 PM i was alluding to the fact that all of those free agents were older players that would be expensive.
who cares if theyre older if we're only relying on them to start for 1-2 years? and who cares about the expense in an uncapped season? I think Campbell or Bradford would have a much better shot at success with Pashos and Clifton protecting him than a 2nd round rookie tackle or any of the scrubs we currently have on the roster. Ideally, we could have signed one or both of them and then drafted a tackle with one of our 1st two picks in the draft. and come on, its not like the contracts either clifton or pashos signed were outrageous. both were 3 year deals without much garaunteed money. both could have been signed and (if necessary) cut next year (even if there is a cap) with minimal negative cap hit.
Trample the Elderly 03-08-2010, 12:49 PM who cares if theyre older if we're only relying on them to start for 1-2 years? I think Campbell or Bradford would have a much better shot at success with Pashos and Clifton protecting him than a 2nd round rookie tackle or any of the scrubs we currently have on the roster.
I know. We need to buy some time for some of the gaping holes we have. If we get a guy that only plays for two or three years, hell just one year; that's more than enough time to fill holes with a draft or two. We should be good in the next two years, maybe one?
over the mountain 03-08-2010, 12:49 PM yean i guess any guy who made an NFL roster is talented.
honestly i dont know anything about hicks except for what i read in the articles after we signed him.
i will read with sinicism to anyone on here who says player X (like hicks, pashos, etc) should have been signed and would be a starter on our O line.
what do we really know about these guys outside of ESPN's ranking of the top FA o lineman available in FA? id trust shanny, allen and co. to make actual talent evaluations outside of matt mosley's player rankings.
Trample the Elderly 03-08-2010, 12:52 PM yean i guess any guy who made an NFL roster is talented.
honestly i dont know anything about hicks except for what i read in the articles after we signed him.
i will read with sinicism to anyone on here who says player X (like hicks, pashos, etc) should have been signed and would be a starter on our O line.
what do we really know about these guys outside of ESPN's ranking of the top FA o lineman available in FA? id trust shanny, allen and co. to make actual talent evaluations outside of matt mosley's player rankings.
Exactly! I trust Shanna-Allen to make the right moves until they prove me wrong. That is the reason I like the Hicks signing. We haven't heard about him because he's been doing his job.
over the mountain 03-08-2010, 12:53 PM who cares if theyre older if we're only relying on them to start for 1-2 years? I think Campbell or Bradford would have a much better shot at success with Pashos and Clifton protecting him than a 2nd round rookie tackle or any of the scrubs we currently have on the roster.
there is enough tape and clifton has started enough in the NFL for us to get a feel for what clifton would bring . . .
but how would any of us know pashos would be an upgrade? hes just a name im going to assume me and you never heard of until a month ago.
if you knew the 49ers backup o lineman who started what, 4 games last year, then kudos to you. but i doubt that im handing out kudos for a tony pashos.
ethat001 03-08-2010, 12:53 PM It's an interesting time to be fiscally responsible, since we apparently we have the 4th lowest payroll right now, and have an uncapped year where we could be crazy and sign ALL the FA's on the market without much problem.
BUT I like the decisions made so far because they seem -- smarter. Now, I'm still concerned for the O-line, but at least that has been focus so far. I wouldn't have minded overpaying for Pashos or Clifton on a year like this, but they've made a strong statement with their moves. I'm hopeful there's a plan with the draft and picking up stop-gap veteran O-linemen somewhere later as well.
I just hope is that come September 2010 our QB is not staring at the clouds on his back.
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