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Ruhskins 02-26-2010, 12:40 AM I disagree with you Inok because a team has a higher likelihood to hit than miss with a Dend like Suh. It's like when the Texans took Mario...time has proven that they made the right decision. As good as Bradford could be, he still would have no one if drafted by the Rams up front good enough to protect him; therefore he is likely to run the risk of reinjuring the shoulder.
I think the Rams may actually have a better line than ours...I do know that they are pretty young, with almost all of the starters under 30. It seems that Jason Smith had injury problems this season (concussion), but if he's healthy, that could improve their line. I'm sure they could use a veteran in that offensive line.
The Rams do need a QB, and they also need receivers, they have no one to throw the ball to. Fortunately for them, they don't need to pick up a WR in the first round, so they could go ahead and pick up Bradford in the first round.
ethat001 02-26-2010, 12:41 AM Hmm.. If Bradford gets drafted #1, then Suh, and McCoy would get picked up, and we'd draft Okung or Davis. I'd be happy either way, although I think that we're going to end up with Bradford.
What ever happened to Bulger? He used to be so good, but I guess he just got injured the last 2 years.. Seems like he has interesting potential to become the next Kurt Warner - and resurrect his career. Or not. Ah well.
Ruhskins 02-26-2010, 12:43 AM I agree about us, but we need a QB anyway.. As far as Minny, I'll go with Dallas as another example. Before Romo where were they? Avg or below avg. Same goes with New Orleans before Brees.
Yes, but your QB won't be much of anything if he has no protection. Brees has a good line in front of him...Romo...I'm not sure about them and their line. We can pick up Bradford, but Shanahan better do a damn good job fixing our POS line, otherwise we'll be back with the same problem next year.
Ruhskins 02-26-2010, 12:44 AM Hmm.. If Bradford gets drafted #1, then Suh, and McCoy would get picked up, and we'd draft Okung or Davis. I'd be happy either way, although I think that we're going to end up with Bradford.
What ever happened to Bulger? He used to be so good, but I guess he just got injured the last 2 years.. Seems like he has interesting potential to become the next Kurt Warner - and resurrect his career. Or not. Ah well.
Bulger got old very fast for some reason...also St. Louis has not done a good job at getting good wideouts since probably Torry Holt left. I think he might have been injured for a game or two last season (Bulger).
skinsfaninok 02-26-2010, 12:55 AM Yes, but your QB won't be much of anything if he has no protection. Brees has a good line in front of him...Romo...I'm not sure about them and their line. We can pick up Bradford, but Shanahan better do a damn good job fixing our POS line, otherwise we'll be back with the same problem next year.
No doubt, I would love to see Okung in DC just as much as Bradford.
GusFrerotte 02-26-2010, 01:21 AM Shit, we need linemen of the highest caliber, not some hot shot Qb from a NCAA powerhouse that is totally overhyped. Come on now fellas, Oklahoma is a bigtime college football powerhouse that with the exception of playing Texas, T Tech, and a resurgent Nebraska, plays markedly inferior opponents just about every week. Their out of conference games are a total joke. A better than average QB could excel when you have the deck stacked in your favor. What is going to happen when Mr Bradford faces PARITY? If he is a future Ram, he is screwed since they suck. If he is a future Skin, he is better off, but is still going to face opponents that are evenly matched to his team. Think about this. Since the late 80's/early 90's1 only 3 Qbs that have garnered a ton of publicity(hype) from NCAA Div 1 A football have made a major impact in the NFL: Aikman, Peyton Manning, and McNabb. All 3 from good solid teams, but not the uber powerhouses. They faced tougher competition being on second tier teams, with less talent to back them up. Brees garnered some hype out of Purdue, but nothing like Bradford or McCoy are receiving. Same with Favre, Rivers, and Brady. All 3 solid QBs from the second tier(well Univ of Mich wasn't second tier back then) who faced superior opponents often or at least a lot of teams on par with them in terms of talent. I know the Big Ten is weak now, but when Brady was at Michigan it was still regarded as on par with the SEC as the premier conference in college football. The Big 12 was also weak this year in terms of overall competition.
GusFrerotte 02-26-2010, 01:30 AM With that being said I don't think Brdofr is necessarily overrated in terms of ability, just I think his value is way overhyped. We need to get 3-5 linemen in the next two drafts of starting caliber and keep some of the present line for depth, but we need to get some studs in here. With a great line guys like Sean Canfield, Bill Stull, or even Kafka or Elliot could do well. Not to forget Lefevour or Sheehan from the MAC. We can get these guys in the middle to later rounds establish a solid line and in 2-3 seasons dominate. There are a ton of very good QBs out there. Why limit ourselves to just two possible selections?
The Goat 02-26-2010, 02:04 AM It doesn't seem like d tackles typically make a huge impact early on (regarding Suh). I don't think they "bust" like other positions, but for instance Raji fought through injury and just struggled to make an impact overall. Okoye (?) is sort of a similar story w/ the Texans. It really seems like it takes a few years for tackles to learn the tricks of the trade, the details, to become really dominant.
So I kind of see drafting Suh and Bradford similar in that you should expect a similar path of success...not immediate excellence. A team should draft on need all else being equal, and the Rams badly need a QB unless they try to build something about Vick or whatever.
skinsfaninok 02-26-2010, 02:20 AM Hey Gus, are Miami , cincinatti , fsu and byu jokes? Lol OU actualy plays a very good out of conference schedule if u knew your facts. Not To mention they play in the 2nd toughest conference in the country.. Unlike the weak ass big 10 or PAC 10.
Dirtbag59 02-26-2010, 02:26 AM Hey Gus, are Miami , cincinatti , fsu and byu jokes? Lol OU actualy plays a very good out of conference schedule if u knew your facts. Not To mention they play in the 2nd toughest conference in the country.. Unlike the weak ass big 10 or PAC 10.
I was with you up until that last sentence. I think the PAC-10 will officially overtake the SEC in terms of quality, or at least perceived quality, within the next year or two. Cal, Stanford, Washington, USC, UCLA, Arizona State, Oregon State, and Oregon are all quality programs right now with a few of those teams eying the possibility of a national championship. All those programs have great coaching, with the exception of USC who is loaded with talent anyway. The only teams in that conference that really stink are Arizona and Washington State.
It doesn't seem like d tackles typically make a huge impact early on (regarding Suh). I don't think they "bust" like other positions, but for instance Raji fought through injury and just struggled to make an impact overall. Okoye (?) is sort of a similar story w/ the Texans. It really seems like it takes a few years for tackles to learn the tricks of the trade, the details, to become really dominant.
Where did you hear all that stuff about Raji? Raji's play at the nose was considered a focal point in Green Bay's ability to transition to the 3-4 so quickly. And Okoye? Okoye came on very strong but has since played average at best. 5.5 sacks in year one compared to 2.5 sacks over the last two years.
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