wilsowilso
02-28-2010, 09:30 PM
Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, and Jon Jansen was easily one of the best lines we had. Obviously they don't compare to the hogs but nevertheless in 2005-2007 (Jansen missed most of 2007 but they were still very good) they were awesome. They had one last hurrah in the first half of 2008 and boy did they dominate. Maybe we could win a Super Bowl with JC playing behind a line like that who knows.
Overrated oline play for the last decade.
Except for Chris Samuels.
The Goat
02-28-2010, 10:52 PM
Overrated oline play for the last decade.
Except for Chris Samuels.
Agreed. There were very strong attributes among them but not a situation where all guys were good at all things. Our run game was largely based on Thomas, regardless of going right or left because he'd pull a corner to lead. He was the only truly superior run-blocker of the group IMO. Samuels was very good. Dock and Jansen pretty good. Rabach just average.
Similar story on pass-protection except that Samuels was the superior guy there.
tryfuhl
03-01-2010, 12:48 AM
That doesn't surprise me at all. Offensive lines are generally decorated when the team wins. Jansen was very good but that team was never getting 2 pro bowl OL with thier record so when the time came for a pro bowl honor Samuels would always get the honor.
This, exactly.
tryfuhl
03-01-2010, 12:51 AM
Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, and Jon Jansen was easily one of the best lines we had. Obviously they don't compare to the hogs but nevertheless in 2005-2007 (Jansen missed most of 2007 but they were still very good) they were awesome. They had one last hurrah in the first half of 2008 and boy did they dominate. Maybe we could win a Super Bowl with JC playing behind a line like that who knows.
Anyway todays wish: Okung-McCoy. It will probably change tomorrow.He was behind that line in 2007 and half of 2006. Or do you mean Jason now?
tryfuhl
03-01-2010, 12:53 AM
You know what's funny? We also got a conditional draft pick (maybe more) in that deal
You know what's even funnier? Three years before that trade the Raiders passed on a chance to sign Doug Williams opening the door for the Redskins to sign him
You know what's sad? The guy in Oakland who insisted on pulling the trigger on that deal...Mike Shanahan
He's been looking out for our best interests for awhile now, awesome!
tryfuhl
03-01-2010, 12:54 AM
You say that but they never even won the division. I love the individual pieces but don't you need results to be compared to any of the lines that dominated for a decade?
Blowing a hole in the argument that a good line alone will get you there.
CultBrennan59
03-01-2010, 01:47 AM
For me, McCoy does not impress as an upgrade. So my wish today, barring Bradford, is either:
1st OT Okung
2nd RB Jahvid Best
4th OT Kyle Calloway
5th LB Darryl Sharpton
7th C John Estes
or
1st OT Okung
2nd OT Charles Brown or Vlad Ducasse
4th RB Montario Hardesty
5th LB Darryl Sharpton
7th C John Estes
As with you, every day for me is a new opportunity for a changed opinion. :)
you think that he could be a good center for us in the zone blocking scheme?
53Fan
03-01-2010, 02:17 AM
Blowing a hole in the argument that a good line alone will get you there.
I don't think anyone is saying a good o-line alone will get you there anymore than a good QB alone will get you there. If they are, they should probably rethink it.
Pocket$ $traight
03-01-2010, 04:21 AM
Blowing a hole in the argument that a good line alone will get you there.
Whose argument is that?
tootergray34
03-01-2010, 07:44 AM
Bradford is not a better prospect than Stafford...sorry.