Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers

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GridIron26
02-23-2010, 07:04 PM
I don't get that.. That's like saying that incompletions for a QB or negative yardage runs for a RB or a DT that doesn't tackle people who run to his left 'don't bother me'. That's a HUGE part of his job!! Getting turnovers is a major factor in wins and losses. Just being in position isn't good enough, if you are there you have to make the play.

The point is there aren't much of opportunities for us to replace Rogers if we decide to let him go.. Rogers proved he can shut down #1 receivers (most of times - the only time I remember he couldn't was the Broncos game against Marshall).. If there's opportunity of having a corner that can cover excellent and makes play that is presented to us then go for it.. But the only opportunity is Dunta Robinson, for some reason, I just don't see us going after him..

The main point of cornerback is not to let receivers catch balls and score touchdowns..

SmootSmack
02-23-2010, 07:06 PM
I agree it is way to early to write them off, especially for Barnes. However it is fair to say that they both have been disappointments up to now. We really need these two guys to have break out years next season. That would be huge.

I wouldn't say they're disappointments. I mean Tryon was drafted in what the 5th round? I don't think there has ever been an expectation of him being anymore than a nickelback. As for Barnes, this is a critical year for him I would agree.

JoeRedskin
02-23-2010, 07:20 PM
Calling Barnes a disappointment is a bit premature. I am not even sure this year is "critical". Sure, he should show progress, but come on - he was an f'ing rookie last year. Can we take some time to develop players before we toss them to the curb?

SmootSmack
02-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Yeah I didn't mean critical as in he better make a pro bowl or hit the streets. Just that I seem him playing a very important role this year

Paintrain
02-23-2010, 08:41 PM
The point is there aren't much of opportunities for us to replace Rogers if we decide to let him go.. Rogers proved he can shut down #1 receivers (most of times - the only time I remember he couldn't was the Broncos game against Marshall).. If there's opportunity of having a corner that can cover excellent and makes play that is presented to us then go for it.. But the only opportunity is Dunta Robinson, for some reason, I just don't see us going after him..

The main point of cornerback is not to let receivers catch balls and score touchdowns..
We will agree to disagree on Rogers and I am admittedly biased because I don't really care for him but he's done nothing that has deemed himself, in my eyes, as irreplaceable with pretty much any other mid level starting CB. As I stated earlier, of the 64 starting CB in the league I don't think he's in the top 30 or 40.

Schneed10
02-23-2010, 09:10 PM
I don't really care for him as a person and there are more complete CBs in the league, but unless we can do better then we should keep him in the short term.

Given that our draft picks need to address the offensive line direly, I say stick with Rogers and try to upgrade him sometime down the line when we have the luxury to do so.

djnemo65
02-23-2010, 09:18 PM
It's annoying that Carlos has never taken responsibility for any failure ever in his entire career, has always found someone to defect the blame to...nevertheless, he's not enough of a headache to warrant release, and even appears somewhat willing to buy into the new system. Who knows, this could be a breakout year for him.

tryfuhl
02-24-2010, 12:31 AM
I wouldn't say they're disappointments. I mean Tryon was drafted in what the 5th round? I don't think there has ever been an expectation of him being anymore than a nickelback. As for Barnes, this is a critical year for him I would agree.
4th I think

I love how we have "busts" that were drafted late

tryfuhl
02-24-2010, 12:32 AM
We will agree to disagree on Rogers and I am admittedly biased because I don't really care for him but he's done nothing that has deemed himself, in my eyes, as irreplaceable with pretty much any other mid level starting CB. As I stated earlier, of the 64 starting CB in the league I don't think he's in the top 30 or 40.

if he's starting 64 and not in the top 40 then I'd love to hear your analysis on the ones in the bottom 24

not that you could name them

tryfuhl
02-24-2010, 12:33 AM
It's annoying that Carlos has never taken responsibility for any failure ever in his entire career, has always found someone to defect the blame to...nevertheless, he's not enough of a headache to warrant release, and even appears somewhat willing to buy into the new system. Who knows, this could be a breakout year for him.
what do you want?

these are high level athletes that want to get paid and want to play

who in the hell in their right mind is going to call themselves mediocre or replaceable?

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