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Lotus 03-10-2010, 12:32 AM Just saw Rick Maese tweet that the Redskins have offered Levi Jones a 1-year deal. Does anyone know anything about this? I wonder if he'd play RT? Any thoughts on this as a possible line:
LT: Okung
LG: Dock
C: Rabach
RG: Hicks
RT: Jones
I don't know about Hicks as a starter. Seeing is believing on that one and maybe a light will come on for Rinehart. And I hope that we had some young ones being groomed behind these guys. But that line might not be too terrible for just one year.
SmootSmack 03-10-2010, 12:37 AM Yeah Levi's been offered a one year deal but wants more. Probably won't find it and will end up here
The Goat 03-10-2010, 12:38 AM Well, not if the line ends up being "fixed" this year.
If we don't go line heavy this year, it's hard to see us ever going with more than a pick or two on the line in a single draft. We're in dire straights (straits?) now. We won't be in quite as bad a position at this time next year.
It's my conclusion that if we went line heavy in this draft, we could win a whole bunch of games and make the postseason. But even if we miss the postseason in 2010, I think our line will be improved. I think Heyer will get better, I think Rabach will be a little less confused, and if nothing else, we won't be as injury riddled this year as we have been in the past. That should help.
I liked your idea (posted in another thread I think) of taking LT and then RT w/ our early picks. That strategy seems to give the offense the best "chance" of success in the next few years because even the best college QB prospect won't be able to develop behind the current line or even the available OL FA talent who could replace what we've got now.
But ultimately it's about player evaluation and availability. I think it's safe to assume Bradford won't fall to 4 and that we're not trading up because it would just be too damn irresponsible. So if Okung is also gone when we pick and Shanny/Allen have Clausen rated higher than the next BPA...I guess we'll add a QB w/ our first pick. That strategy relies on a wing and a prayer Levi Jones has a good year or two left in him. Personally not something I'd be willing to bet the house on...and let's be honest Levi Jones protecting a QB drafted 4th overall is betting the house.
...I'm pretty glad I don't have to make decisions for the franchise this off-season.
GTripp0012 03-10-2010, 12:47 AM I don't actually think Okung will be gone when we pick. I think Detroit and Tampa Bay will have serious internal discussions about taking him, and I think Detroit is more likely to take him, but ultimately, won't be able to pass on Suh or McCoy.
Ruhskins 03-10-2010, 01:10 AM I don't actually think Okung will be gone when we pick. I think Detroit and Tampa Bay will have serious internal discussions about taking him, and I think Detroit is more likely to take him, but ultimately, won't be able to pass on Suh or McCoy.
Tripp, Levi as a RT...upgrade from Heyer or about the same?
GTripp0012 03-10-2010, 01:15 AM Tripp, Levi as a RT...upgrade from Heyer or about the same?Against 2009 Heyer, he's a run blocking downgrade and a pass blocking upgrade, which I'd call a slight net gain.
But against 2010 Heyer, there's no easy answer. He's probably a downgrade, especially as a full-time option, but I can't say for sure, because if Heyer has maxed out his ability to block opposing pass rushers at the age of 26, then his run blocking (best on the team, based on the current roster) probably isn't dominant enough to justify a roster spot much longer.
At the point which Levi Jones can no longer handle left tackle, which might have been two years ago, he no longer has value as an NFL player.
The Goat 03-10-2010, 01:46 AM Against 2009 Heyer, he's a run blocking downgrade and a pass blocking upgrade, which I'd call a slight net gain.
But against 2010 Heyer, there's no easy answer. He's probably a downgrade, especially as a full-time option, but I can't say for sure, because if Heyer has maxed out his ability to block opposing pass rushers at the age of 26, then his run blocking (best on the team, based on the current roster) probably isn't dominant enough to justify a roster spot much longer.
At the point which Levi Jones can no longer handle left tackle, which might have been two years ago, he no longer has value as an NFL player.
Not sure how confident we can be in this assumption going forward (though you would know better based on the details of zone-blocking vs Zorn-blocking:)). Heyer seemed to struggle mightily when forced to block into the 2nd level...struggle to find his target, quickly get to him and then break down to block w/ proper form.
Dirtbag59 03-10-2010, 01:55 AM I don't actually think Okung will be gone when we pick. I think Detroit and Tampa Bay will have serious internal discussions about taking him, and I think Detroit is more likely to take him, but ultimately, won't be able to pass on Suh or McCoy.
Don't forget that Anthony Davis will be there as well. That guy goes from being my least favorite to now one of my favorites. Of course Bradford should easily be the guy if he's there.
tootergray34 03-10-2010, 02:11 AM clausen > bradford
The Goat 03-10-2010, 02:14 AM Okung > Bradford/Clausen
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