|
|
Lotus 02-17-2010, 02:08 PM Some folks in this thread are really undervaluing Campbell. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big Campbell fan and I'm excited by the idea that we might be moving on at QB. But JC has a career passer rating in the 80's and has a good amount of starting experience. He could start or be a competent backup for many teams. The folks who think he's worth nothing or only worth a 4th round pick are not giving JC his due, even if he is made of wax.
I think the 1st and 3rd tender is an astute personnel move.
redskins202 02-17-2010, 02:12 PM Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.
Hes actully worth a first rounder and possibly better than Sam Bradford. He has the quickest zip and good throwing motion along with his mobility in the pocket for a Shanahan type of offense.
3-year WCO type of QB(All pro offense)- and a film rat type of guy. He could very we'll be the guy for our pick with his mobility .
over the mountain 02-17-2010, 02:13 PM Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.
b/c of what ive seen of him, reading scouting and expert reports, his 20+ tds last year compared to his 4 ints (one of which was a hail mary, another wasnt his fault), his ability to read defenses, his understanding of a pro style offense, etc.
im gonna guess that you dont like clausen, never really gave him an objective evaluation or even evaluated him on your own at all but am just making an uninformed opinion. since mcshay says hes second round you think hes second round?
when people say so-n-so is going to be an unequivocal bust before the combine, draft and actually having that player play a year or two; it really brings into quesiton how that person can come to such an absolute opinion with so little to go by except gut instinct.
like SS asked, why do you think he is a decent 2nd round pick? (itd be a cop out if you just recite what mcshay thinks but that is your right)
Slingin Sammy 33 02-17-2010, 02:24 PM Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.Most folks have Clausen going top 10. Matt McGuire at Walter Football makes the argument for Clausen very strong. McShay is wrong on this one.
WalterFootball.com: The NFL Matt Draft - Matt McGuire's NFL Draft Blog (http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php)
"First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen......Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there.......
Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him. For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this blog entry."
redskins202 02-17-2010, 02:30 PM b/c of what ive seen of him, reading scouting and expert reports, his 20+ tds last year compared to his 4 ints (one of which was a hail mary, another wasnt his fault), his ability to read defenses, his understanding of a pro style offense, etc.
im gonna guess that you dont like clausen, never really gave him an objective evaluation or even evaluated him on your own at all but am just making an uninformed opinion. since maylock says hes second round you think hes second round?
when people say so-n-so is going to be an unequivocal bust before the combine, draft and actually having that player play a year or two; it really brings into quesiton how that person can come to such an absolute opinion with so little to go by except gut instinct.
like SS asked, why do you think he is a decent 2nd round pick? (itd be a cop out if you just recite what maylock thinks but that is your right)
I agree. Only reason people wouldn't want Clausen is manly these two reasons.
-A ND QB(Clausen probably the best QB coming into the draft for a decade) but since he's from ND he's suppose to be a bust....
-He looks ugly and rumor saids hes gay. So basically fans don't want him for this either.
irish 02-17-2010, 02:33 PM Some folks in this thread are really undervaluing Campbell. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big Campbell fan and I'm excited by the idea that we might be moving on at QB. But JC has a career passer rating in the 80's and has a good amount of starting experience. He could start or be a competent backup for many teams. The folks who think he's worth nothing or only worth a 4th round pick are not giving JC his due, even if he is made of wax.
I think the 1st and 3rd tender is an astute personnel move.
For all his starting experience you'd think he'd have even a little pocket presence and feel for the position but he doesnt. I agrre that he could be a decent back up but he's not a starter that will take a team anywhere.
CultBrennan59 02-17-2010, 02:35 PM I agree. Only reason people wouldn't want Clausen is manly these two reasons.
-A ND QB(Clausen probably the best QB coming into the draft for a decade) but since he's from ND he's suppose to be a bust....
-He looks ugly and rumor saids hes gay. So basically fans don't want him for this either.
Flacco's ugly but that doesn't mean I don't want him as a QB. This makes no sense to draft a QB on best looking. And where have you heard that he's gay? The only I've heard about clausen is that he's a trash talker and got into a few bar fights at ND, one of them giving him a black eye.
skinsfaninok 02-17-2010, 02:39 PM No way we get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell. It just won't happen. Plus we should keep him anyway because Bradford will be a rookie.
SolidSnake84 02-17-2010, 02:41 PM I've heard the gay rumors about Clausen for a long time now...
Anyway, about JC's passer rating, keep in mind that so many of his throws are screens and little dunk offs....Brunell had a high passer rating in 2006, and he apparantley "sucked"....so take that into consideration.
Player_HTTR 02-17-2010, 02:47 PM I've heard the gay rumors about Clausen for a long time now...
So are you saying he will be better under center than Bradford? just askin.
|